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How to Synergize Veigar with Talon on the Same TeamVeigar is in the b tier of champions

Veigar with Talon

How to Win With Veigar and Talon Paired TogetherVeigar is in the a tier of champions
Mage
Assassin

How to Synergize Veigar and Talon

based on 1,343 Veigar with Talon pairs
Win Rate
48.5 %
K/D/A
2.09
Pick Rate
1 %

How We Analyze Champion Pairings in LoL

We download the results of from millions of LoL matches directly from Riot Games each week. Veigar has fought alongside Talon in 1343 recently played, ranked matches. By gathering so much accurate data straight from the developers of League of Legends, we feel confident that we can showcase high-quality, usable builds to help Veigar synergize with Talon. It is very rare for Veigar to play alongside Talon as teammates. This has only happened in approximately 1.0% of rounds with Veigar.

Veigar Talon Synergy Summary

Unfortunately, Veigar does a poor job of teaming up with Talon. Typically, he wins an acceptable 48.5% of rounds the champs try and work together in. If you want to play better as Veigar when playing alongside Talon by learning how to better synergize your playstyle with him, then review the complete build (with items, runes, summoner spells, and skills) below!

Best Veigar vs Talon Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Doran's RingHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Amplifying TomeLost Chapter

Core Veigar Items

~22 Mins
Rabadon's DeathcapZhonya's HourglassStormsurge

Optional Items

Seraph's EmbraceShadowflameVoid StaffLuden's Companion

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerteleport summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Veigar to level upq
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Second ability for Veigar to level upw
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Last skill for Veigar to max oute

Runes

InspirationFirst StrikeMagical FootwearBiscuit DeliveryCosmic Insight
SorceryManaflow BandTranscendence
Ability HasteAdaptive ForceMagic Resist
Veigar's passive ability p
Veigar's q ability q
Veigar's w ability w
Veigar's e ability e
Veigar's ultimate ability r
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Guide to Synergizing Veigar and Talon

Tips for Playing as Veigar with Talon

Veigar is extremely Mana and Cooldown Reduction dependent. Try buying items with these stats in order to increase the effectiveness of your passive and Baleful Strike.

Veigar is very fragile. It is valuable to select at least one summoner spell that can be used defensively.

Use Event Horizon to increase your chances of landing Dark Matter.

Advice to Understand How Talon Will Play

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Veigar Talon Synergy Stats

Veigar Image
Win Rate
48.5 %
VS
Win Rate
51.5 %
Talon Image
6.7
< Kills >
7
6.5
< Deaths >
6.3
6.9
< Assists >
6.3
1.52
< Killing Sprees >
1.61
164
< Minions Killed >
167
0.11
< Dragons Killed >
0.11
0.49
< Inhibitors >
0.49
659
< Physical Damage >
662
22,019
< Magic Damage >
22,050
611
< True Damage >
588
23,290
< Damage Dealt >
23,300
19,178
< Damage Taken >
19,199
12,126
< Gold Earned >
12,112
2.04
< Towers >
2.02
0.04
< Baron Takedowns >
0.04
1,903
< Total Healing >
1,904
14,100
< Experience >
14,485
25
< Vision Score >
21
12
< Wards Placed >
11
92
< Time Dealing CC >
88

How to Play with Talon as Veigar in LoL

The Veigar Talon synergy stats shown here demonstrate the areas of his gameplay that do better (or worse) when paired with Talon, compared to his overall stats. Significant differences are areas of focus that highlight how his gameplay changes when paired with this other champion.

Overall, Veigar sees a large worsening in his KDA (ratio of kills and assists to deaths) when paired with Talon. His KDA worsened from NaN to NaN. This negative change shows that Talon helps Veigar perform poorer in competitive League matches. Yet, the small difference demonstrates that this performance change is only marginal.

When Veigar tries to synergize with Talon, he observes a barely noticable drop in his total damage output. This may demonstrate that Talon does not help cover for him to dish out more damage or that his participation also helps extend the match's duration. Similarly, when Veigar is played with Talon on the same side, he usually scores many fewer killing sprees compared to when he plays without Talon. This is contrasting evidence that he is worse when playing synergisticly with Talon.

Moreover, when Veigar plays with Talon on the same side, he usually receives a little less damage than when he fights alone. Getting dealt not as much damage could indicate that Talon does a decent job of protecting Veigar in team fights.

Synergies between Veigar and Talon

Damage Types Compared

Veigar
Talon
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Contrasted

Veigar
Talon

Is Veigar better when played alongside Talon?

There is no perfect ally for Veigar that will always be his ideal ally. However, overall, Talon is a very typical teammate for Veigar. By playing on the same team as Veigar, he drops their win rate by -0.8% to 48.5%. This signals that there is only a small bond between Veigar and Talon that results in them performing worse together than without each other.

Talon has a lower difficulty than Veigar. That means you don't need to be very careful when arranging Talon teammates to fight alongside, as they will have to have a relatively low level of skill to do well with you.

Working together, you will likely see an overall large increase in your team’s capability to deal physical damage. When paired, these champs can provide a great amount of sustained physical damage.

In contrast, by bringing Veigar and Talon together, you will not be giving your side very much protection for burst damage. Plan to have other champs on your team that fills this disparity in this pairing's capabilities.

Regardless of the ability of your Talon teammate, you should focus on maximizing your gold income, warding to avoid ambushes, and taking down objectives. If you follow these simple suggestions, you will do well anyway.

Additional Information for Veigar Players

How We Calculated Our Veigar Talon Synergy Build and Stats

For this guide on pairing Veigar and Talon, we analyzed 1,343 ranked and recent League of Legends matches. We perform advanced data cleaning and statistical methods to guarantee that our team synergy stats are accurate and reliable. You can be confident that our recommended build to pair Veigar with Talon comes from actual data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view your division's most relevant stats and build.

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Further Insights to Win with this Champion Pairing

If you would like to truly master Veigar to synergize with Talon during both the early game and mid / late game phases of LoL matches, you should continue reading to master additional lessons on this champion pairing. If you mind the build and suggestions shown here, you will grow your win rate by a lot.

The most important finished items to include in your Veigar and Talon synergy build consist of Rabadon's Deathcap, Zhonya's Hourglass, and Stormsurge. When Veigar included at least these three finished items in his build, he did much better when paired up with Talon than with many other common builds. In fact, Veigar had an average win rate of 48.5% when playing alongside Talon with this build.

To have the best chance of annihilating your oponents, you should use the First Strike, Magical Footwear, Biscuit Delivery, Cosmic Insight, Manaflow Band, and Transcendence runes from the Inspiration and Sorcery rune sets. Of all the rune combinations players picked for Veigar and Talon pairings, this combo of runes yielded the best win rate. In fact, these runes gave a 48.5% win rate overall.

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