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Talon with Graves

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How to Synergize Talon and Graves

based on 2,066 Talon with Graves pairs
Win Rate
48.6 %
K/D/A
2.06
Pick Rate
2.5 %

How We Analyze Champion Pairings in LoL

We download the stats from from millions of LoL rounds directly from Riot Games each week. Talon has gone into battle with Graves in 2066 recently played, ranked games. By pooling so much complete data from the creators of League, we feel confident that we can give you high quality, usable builds to help Talon play with Graves. It is relatively rare for Talon to play with Graves as teammates. This has only occurred in about 2.5% of games with Talon.

Talon Graves Synergy Summary

Unfortunately, Talon has done a dismal job of fighting on the same side as Graves. On average, he wins an acceptable 48.6% of rounds the champions play on the same team. If you want to do better as Talon when playing with Graves by learning how to better synergize your tactics with him, then look into the complete build (with items, runes, summoner spells, and skills) below!

Best Talon vs Graves Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Doran's BladeHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Serrated DirkRectrix

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Youmuu's GhostbladeAxiom ArcOpportunity

Optional Items

Edge of NightSerylda's GrudgeHubrisProfane Hydra

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

DominationElectrocuteSudden ImpactEyeball CollectionRelentless Hunter
SorceryNimbus CloakAbsolute Focus
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceHealth Scaling
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
1
W
2
Q
3
W
4
E
5
W
6
R
7
W
8
Q
9
W
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Q
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R
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Q
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Q
14
E
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E
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R

Guide to Synergizing Talon and Graves

Tips for Playing as Talon with Graves

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Understand How Graves Will Play

Smoke Screen can be used both to escape and to set up a kill.

Using Quickdraw to get into range and delivering a point blank Buckshot can do lots of damage.

Talon Graves Synergy Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
48.6 %
VS
Win Rate
51.4 %
Graves Image
8.7
< Kills >
8.8
7
< Deaths >
6.9
5.7
< Assists >
6.1
1.98
< Killing Sprees >
1.99
166
< Minions Killed >
137
0.11
< Dragons Killed >
0.43
0.33
< Inhibitors >
0.34
22,033
< Physical Damage >
21,880
85
< Magic Damage >
79
1,199
< True Damage >
1,218
23,317
< Damage Dealt >
23,178
25,812
< Damage Taken >
27,970
12,535
< Gold Earned >
12,762
1.47
< Towers >
1.41
0.03
< Baron Takedowns >
0.1
3,983
< Total Healing >
6,404
14,500
< Experience >
14,711
17
< Vision Score >
18
7
< Wards Placed >
6
158
< Time Dealing CC >
189

How to Play with Graves as Talon in LoL

The Talon Graves synergy stats shown here demonstrate the areas of his gameplay that do better (or worse) when paired with Graves, compared to his overall stats. Significant differences are areas of focus that highlight how his gameplay changes when paired with this other champion.

Overall, Talon sees a very large drop in his KDA (ratio of kills and assists to deaths) when paired with Graves. His KDA decreased from NaN to NaN. This decrease shows that Graves helps Talon perform worse in competitive League games. Yet, the small difference proves that this performance change is only marginal.

When Talon is paired with Graves, he sees a marginal improvement in his complete damage dealt. This may signal that Graves supports by providing cover for him to dish out more damage or that his allyship also helps increase the game's duration. Similarly, when Talon is played with Graves on the same team, he usually scores many fewer killing sprees than when he plays without Graves. This is contrasting evidence that he is worse when playing synergisticly with Graves.

Additionally, when Talon plays with Graves on the same team, he usually takes less damage than when he fights alone. Getting dealt not as much damage may indicate that Graves does a decent job of protecting Talon during team fights.

Synergies between Talon and Graves

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Graves
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Contrasted

Talon
Graves

Is Talon better when played alongside Graves?

There is no top synergy for Talon that will no matter what be his #1 teammate. However, Graves is a very typical teammate for Talon. By playing on the same side as Talon, he decreases their win rate by -0.4% to 48.6%. This signals that there is not really a strong bond between Talon and Graves that results in them performing not as well together than alone.

Graves has a much lower diffuclty than Talon. That means you don't need to be very careful when finding Graves comrades to play with, as they will have to have a much lower level of skill to do well with you.

Fighting cooperatively, Talon players should witness an overall large increase in your team’s capacity to deal physical damage. Together, these two can provide a great amount of sustained physical damage.

In contrast, by grouping Talon and Graves together, you will not be providing your other teammates a lot of magic damage. Plan to pick other champions on your team that helps cover this relative disparity in their kit.

Regardless of your Graves ally's ability, you should focus on increasing your gold income, warding to avoid ambushes, and taking down objectives. If you heed this simple advice, you will do well, regardless.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon Graves Synergy Build and Stats

For this guide on pairing Talon and Graves, we analyzed 2,066 ranked and recent League of Legends matches. We perform advanced data cleaning and statistical methods to guarantee that our team synergy stats are accurate and reliable. You can be confident that our recommended build to pair Talon with Graves comes from actual data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view your division's most relevant stats and build.

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Further Insights to Win with this Champion Pairing

To truly master Talon in order to work well with Graves during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League matches, you should keep reading to learn some more lessons on this champion pairing. If you use the build and suggestions displayed above, you will increase your win rate by a lot.

The best finished items to include in your Talon and Graves synergy build consist of Youmuu's Ghostblade, Axiom Arc, and Opportunity. When Talon included at least these three items in his build, he performed a lot better when fighting alongside Graves than with most other commonly used item sets. In fact, Talon boasted an average winrate of 48.6% when synergizing his build and playstyle to Graves with this build.

To have the best likelihood of beating your oponents, you should use the Electrocute, Sudden Impact, Eyeball Collection, Relentless Hunter, Nimbus Cloak, and Absolute Focus runes from the Domination and Sorcery rune sets. Out of all the rune builds that we analyzed for this team composition, this combo of runes yielded the best win rate. Notably, these runes gave a 48.6% winrate overall.

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