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How to Synergize Karma with Talon on the Same TeamKarma is in the b tier of champions

Karma with Talon

How to Win With Karma and Talon Paired TogetherKarma is in the a tier of champions
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How to Synergize Karma and Talon

based on 2,122 Karma with Talon pairs
Win Rate
48.4 %
K/D/A
2.74
Pick Rate
2.1 %

How We Analyze Champion Pairings in LoL

Our servers download the stats from from millions of League rounds directly from Riot Games each and every week. Karma has been on the same team as Talon in 2122 recently played, competitive matches. By pooling so much relevant data straight from the developers of LoL, we feel confident that we can showcase high-quality, accurate builds to help Karma synergize with Talon. It is relatively rare for Karma to play with Talon on the same team. This has only taken place in about 2.1% of games with Karma.

Karma Talon Synergy Summary

Unfortunately, Karma does a dismal job of fighting on the same side as Talon. Normally, she wins a poor 48.4% of the time the champions try and synergize their gameplay. If you want to do better as Karma when playing alongside Talon by figuring out how to better synergize your playstyle with him, then dig into the complete build (with items, runes, summoner spells, and skills) below!

Best Karma vs Talon Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Health PotionWorld Atlas

Early Items

~5 Mins
Glowing MoteIonian Boots of Lucidity

Core Karma Items

~22 Mins
Shurelya's BattlesongArdent CenserZaz'Zak's Realmspike

Optional Items

Cosmic DriveRedemptionMoonstone RenewerMalignance

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Karma to level upq
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Second ability for Karma to level upe
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Last skill for Karma to max outw

Runes

SorcerySummon AeryManaflow BandTranscendenceScorch
ResolveBone PlatingRevitalize
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceHealth Scaling
Karma's passive ability p
Karma's q ability q
Karma's w ability w
Karma's e ability e
Karma's ultimate ability r
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E
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W
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Q
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Q
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R
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Guide to Synergizing Karma and Talon

Tips for Playing as Karma with Talon

Don't be too conservative with Mantra. Gathering Fire is strongest in teamfights, making it easy to recharge Mantra multiple times.

Gathering Fire rewards aggressive play. Look to land abilities and basic attacks on your opponent to lower Mantra's cooldown and stay on the offensive.

When using Focused Resolve, slow your opponents with Inner Flame or speed yourself up with Inspire if you're having trouble sticking to a target.

Advice to Understand How Talon Will Play

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Karma Talon Synergy Stats

Karma Image
Win Rate
48.4 %
VS
Win Rate
51.6 %
Talon Image
2.8
< Kills >
3
5.7
< Deaths >
5.6
12.8
< Assists >
11.9
0.58
< Killing Sprees >
0.63
58
< Minions Killed >
66
0.05
< Dragons Killed >
0.05
0.5
< Inhibitors >
0.49
983
< Physical Damage >
984
13,797
< Magic Damage >
13,958
761
< True Damage >
744
15,542
< Damage Dealt >
15,687
19,239
< Damage Taken >
19,133
9,246
< Gold Earned >
9,240
2.06
< Towers >
1.95
0.02
< Baron Takedowns >
0.01
2,874
< Total Healing >
2,813
11,418
< Experience >
11,492
56
< Vision Score >
50
24
< Wards Placed >
22
238
< Time Dealing CC >
238

How to Play with Talon as Karma in LoL

The Karma Talon synergy stats shown here demonstrate the areas of her gameplay that do better (or worse) when paired with Talon, compared to her overall stats. Significant differences are areas of focus that highlight how her gameplay changes when paired with this other champion.

Overall, Karma sees a very large drop in her KDA (ratio of kills and assists to deaths) when paired with Talon. His KDA fell from NaN to NaN. This worsening shows that Talon helps Karma perform not as well in competitive League of Legends rounds. Yet, the small difference shows that this performance change is not very impactful.

When Karma tries to synergize with Talon, she observes a barely noticable drop in her complete damage output. This could demonstrate that Talon does not support by providing protection for her to deal more damage or that his allyship also helps increase the round's duration. Similarly, when Karma is played alongside Talon on the same team, he usually scores many fewer killing sprees than when she plays without Talon. This is contrasting evidence that she is worse when playing with Talon.

Moreover, when Karma plays with Talon on the same side, she often takes a little more damage than when she fights alone. Receiving more damage could mean that Talon does a poor job of covering Karma in teamfights.

Synergies between Karma and Talon

Damage Types Compared

Karma
Talon
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Contrasted

Karma
Talon

Is Karma better when played alongside Talon?

There is no ideal champion pairing for Karma that will no matter what be her ideal synergy. However, overall, Talon is a very typical companion for Karma. By playing on the same side as Karma, he increases their win rate by 0.1% to 48.4%. This proves that there is a weak synergy between Karma and Talon that results in them performing at the top of their game together than without each other.

Talon has a greater difficulty than Karma. That means Karma players should be careful when enlisting Talon teammates to go into battle on the same side as, as they will require a greater level of skill to fight well with you.

Playing cooperatively, you should expect to witness an overall large increase in your team’s ability to destroy wih physical damage. Together, these two should be able to take down targets with auto-attacks and other AD damage abilities.

Although, by bringing Karma and Talon together, you will not be giving your team enough utility. Make sure to pick other champs on your team that neutralizes this relative hole in this pairing's abilities.

Regardless of the skill of your Talon ally, you should focus on increasing your income, outlasting your enemies, and taking down objectives. If you do this, you should do well, regardless.

Additional Information for Karma Players

How We Calculated Our Karma Talon Synergy Build and Stats

For this guide on pairing Karma and Talon, we analyzed 2,122 ranked and recent League of Legends matches. We perform advanced data cleaning and statistical methods to guarantee that our team synergy stats are accurate and reliable. You can be confident that our recommended build to pair Karma with Talon comes from actual data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view your division's most relevant stats and build.

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Further Insights to Win with this Champion Pairing

If you would like to learn all of the intricacies of Karma to pair well with Talon during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League, you should continue reading to gather some more lessons on this champion pairing. If you pay attention to the build and suggestions displayed above, you will increase your win rate significantly.

The top items to have in your Karma and Talon synergy build consist of Shurelya's Battlesong, Ardent Censer, and Zaz'Zak's Realmspike. When Karma bought at least these three great items in her build, she performed much better when fighting alongside Talon than with most other typical builds. In fact, Karma boasted an average winrate of 48.4% when synergizing her build and playstyle to Talon with this build.

To have the highest chance of coming out on top against your oponents, Karma players should take the Summon Aery, Manaflow Band, Transcendence, Scorch, Bone Plating, and Revitalize runes from the Sorcery and Resolve rune sets. Out of all the rune builds players chose for this team composition, this order of runes yielded the top win rate. In fact, these runes gave a 48.4% win rate overall.

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