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Graves with Talon

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How to Synergize Graves and Talon

based on 2,066 Graves with Talon pairs
Win Rate
48.6 %
K/D/A
2.43
Pick Rate
1.2 %

How We Analyze Champion Pairings in LoL

Our servers download the results of from millions of LoL rounds directly from Riot Games each and every week. Graves has gone into battle with Talon in 2066 recently played, competitive matches. By gathering so much complete data straight from the publishers of LoL, we are sure that we can showcase high quality, accurate builds to help Graves play with Talon. It is very rare for Graves to play alongside Talon as teammates. This pairing has only occurred in approximately 1.2% of rounds with Graves.

Graves Talon Synergy Summary

Unfortunately, Graves does a dismal job of teaming up with Talon. On average, he wins an acceptable 48.6% of rounds the champs fight together on the same side. If you want to play better as Graves when playing alongside Talon by learning how to better synergize your playstyle with him, then look into the full build (with items, runes, summoner spells, and skills) below!

Best Graves vs Talon Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Scorchclaw PupHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Serrated DirkRectrix

Core Graves Items

~22 Mins
Black CleaverBloodthirsterThe Collector

Optional Items

OpportunityVoltaic CycloswordInfinity EdgeMaw of Malmortius

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonersmite summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Graves to level upq
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Second ability for Graves to level upe
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Last skill for Graves to max outw

Runes

PrecisionFleet FootworkTriumphLegend: AlacrityCoup de Grace
DominationZombie WardTreasure Hunter
Attack SpeedAdaptive ForceArmor
Graves's passive ability p
Graves's q ability q
Graves's w ability w
Graves's e ability e
Graves's ultimate ability r
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E
2
Q
3
W
4
Q
5
Q
6
R
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Q
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E
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Guide to Synergizing Graves and Talon

Tips for Playing as Graves with Talon

Smoke Screen can be used both to escape and to set up a kill.

Using Quickdraw to get into range and delivering a point blank Buckshot can do lots of damage.

Advice to Understand How Talon Will Play

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Graves Talon Synergy Stats

Graves Image
Win Rate
48.6 %
VS
Win Rate
51.4 %
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6.9
< Kills >
7.3
5.8
< Deaths >
5.8
7.2
< Assists >
7
1.59
< Killing Sprees >
1.66
56
< Minions Killed >
54
1.56
< Dragons Killed >
1.54
0.46
< Inhibitors >
0.48
17,359
< Physical Damage >
17,681
903
< Magic Damage >
839
1,717
< True Damage >
1,633
19,980
< Damage Dealt >
20,153
29,919
< Damage Taken >
29,908
12,736
< Gold Earned >
12,774
1.67
< Towers >
1.72
0.36
< Baron Takedowns >
0.37
13,812
< Total Healing >
13,908
14,570
< Experience >
14,441
24
< Vision Score >
23
6
< Wards Placed >
6
497
< Time Dealing CC >
493

How to Play with Talon as Graves in LoL

The Graves Talon synergy stats shown here demonstrate the areas of his gameplay that do better (or worse) when paired with Talon, compared to his overall stats. Significant differences are areas of focus that highlight how his gameplay changes when paired with this other champion.

Overall, Graves sees a large worsening in his KDA (ratio of kills and assists to deaths) when paired with Talon. His KDA decreased from NaN to NaN. This drop shows that Talon helps Graves perform poorer in competitive League of Legends rounds. Yet, the small difference demonstrates that this performance change is only marginal.

When Graves is paired with Talon, he gets a little decrease in his complete damage dealt. This difference could demonstrate that Talon does not help protection for him to dish out more damage or that his participation also helps extend the round's duration. Similarly, when Graves is played alongside Talon on the same side, he usually scores many fewer killing sprees than when he plays without Talon. This is contrasting evidence that he is worse when playing with Talon.

Moreover, when Graves plays with Talon on the same side, he typically takes a little more damage than when he plays alone. Receiving more damage may mean that Talon does a poor job of covering Graves in team fights.

Synergies between Graves and Talon

Damage Types Compared

Graves
Talon
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Contrasted

Graves
Talon

Is Graves better when played alongside Talon?

There is no one best companion for Graves that will always be his #1 ally. Yet, Talon is a relatively poor ally for Graves. By playing on the same team as Graves, he lowers their win rate by -1.9% to 48.6%. This clearly indicates that there is a negative bond between Graves and Talon that allows them to perform not as well together than without each other.

Talon has a much greater difficulty compared to Graves. That means you must be very careful when arranging Talon teammates to go into battle on the same side as, as they will require a much greater level of skill to work well with you.

Fighting together, you should expect to observe an overall large increase in your team’s ability to dish out massive AD. When paired, these champions should be able to take down targets with auto-attacks and other AD damage abilities.

In contrast, by grouping Graves and Talon together, you will not be providing your other allies a great deal of magical damage output. Plan to have other champs on your team that fills this gap in this pairing's potential.

Regardless of your Talon ally's ability, you need to focus on maximizing your income, staying alive by avoiding foolish fights, and clearing objectives. If you heed this simple advice, you should do well anyway.

Additional Information for Graves Players

How We Calculated Our Graves Talon Synergy Build and Stats

For this guide on pairing Graves and Talon, we analyzed 2,066 ranked and recent League of Legends matches. We perform advanced data cleaning and statistical methods to guarantee that our team synergy stats are accurate and reliable. You can be confident that our recommended build to pair Graves with Talon comes from actual data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view your division's most relevant stats and build.

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Further Insights to Win with this Champion Pairing

If you would like to learn all of the intricacies of Graves in order to synergize with Talon during both the early game and mid / late game phases of LoL rounds, you should continue reading to pick up some more lessons on this champion pairing. If you listen to the build and stats presented here, you will increase your win rate significantly.

The top finished items to use in your Graves and Talon synergy build include Black Cleaver, Bloodthirster, and The Collector. When Graves used at least these three items in his build, he did much better when paired up with Talon than with most other common builds. In fact, Graves boasted an average win rate of 48.6% when playing alongside Talon with these items in his kit.

To have the highest likelihood of crushing your oponents, Graves players should take the Fleet Footwork, Triumph, Legend: Alacrity, Coup de Grace, Treasure Hunter, and Zombie Ward runes from the Precision and Domination rune sets. Of all the runes we have analyed for Graves and Talon pairings, this combo of runes resulted in the greatest win rate. Notably, these runes averaged a 48.6% win rate overall.

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