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How to Win Thresh vs Lucian Counter MatchupThresh is in the a tier of champions

Thresh vs Lucian

How to Beat Lucian as Thresh in LoLThresh is in the a tier of champions
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How to Beat Lucian as Thresh

based on 9,344 Thresh vs Lucian matchups
Win Rate
48.7 %
K/D/A
2.56
Pick Rate
6.3 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We at MOBA Champion evaluate millions of ranked League games each week. In our data, Thresh did battle with Lucian 9344 times. Using so many games with Thresh versus Lucian provides us a lot of confidence in our capacity to produce enlightening stats and a pro build to shatter Lucian. This particular pairing is fairly uncommon. Thresh fights Lucian in only 6.3% of his games.

Thresh vs Lucian Matchup Summary

Unfortunately, Thresh has done a below average job of countering Lucian. On average, he wins a acceptable 48.7% of games the champs battle one another in. In Thresh against Lucian matches, Thresh’s team is 0.0% more likely to get first blood, indicating that he most likely will get first blood versus Lucian.

Best Thresh vs Lucian Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Health PotionWorld Atlas

Early Items

~5 Mins
BootsNull-Magic Mantle

Core Thresh Items

~22 Mins
ThornmailKnight's VowLocket of the Iron Solari

Optional Items

Kaenic RookernForce of NatureRanduin's OmenUnending Despair

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Thresh to level upq
>
Second ability for Thresh to level upe
>
Last skill for Thresh to max outw

Runes

ResolveAftershockFont of LifeBone PlatingUnflinching
InspirationBiscuit DeliveryCosmic Insight
Ability HasteHealth ScalingHealth Scaling
Thresh's passive ability p
Thresh's q ability q
Thresh's w ability w
Thresh's e ability e
Thresh's ultimate ability r
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Q
2
E
3
W
4
Q
5
Q
6
R
7
Q
8
E
9
Q
10
E
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R
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E
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E
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W
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W
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R

Guide to Countering Lucian as Thresh

Tips for Playing as Thresh against Lucian

Communication is key when making use of Thresh's lantern. Let your teammates know how you like to use it.

Death Sentence and Flay can be combined in either cast order for powerful combinations.

Thresh can collect souls without needing to kill units himself. Planning your map position to be near the most deaths will help to maximize soul collection.

Advice to Win Against Lucian

Lucian cannot change the aim of The Culling. Take advantage of this by avoiding the angle of the bullets.

Lucian has strong burst, but little sustained damage.

Piercing Light does not give Lucian extra Attack Range. He still needs to find a target in range to line up his shot. Avoid Piercing Light by anticipating the angle Lucian will choose.

Thresh vs Lucian Counter Stats

Thresh Image
Win Rate
48.7 %
VS
Win Rate
51.3 %
Lucian Image
2.1
< Kills >
7.8
6.3
< Deaths >
6.3
14
< Assists >
6.9
0.37
< Killing Sprees >
1.82
34
< Minions Killed >
184
0.04
< Dragons Killed >
0.2
0.47
< Inhibitors >
0.52
1,167
< Physical Damage >
18,955
7,051
< Magic Damage >
2,787
778
< True Damage >
572
8,996
< Damage Dealt >
22,315
21,441
< Damage Taken >
20,371
8,531
< Gold Earned >
12,524
1.8
< Towers >
2.46
0.01
< Baron Takedowns >
0.06
2,306
< Total Healing >
4,708
10,483
< Experience >
12,597
58
< Vision Score >
19
25
< Wards Placed >
9
264
< Time Dealing CC >
40

How to Counter Lucian with Thresh in LoL

The stats provided here underscore several important Thresh against Lucian counter statistics that may help us explain the differences between the pair. Thresh’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is greater than Lucian’s ratio of NaN, indicating that Thresh may be more central to his team's team fighting effectiveness than Lucian. This observation is in large part a result of the differences in assists.

Thresh often has a significantly smaller longest kill spree than his enemy does. On average, he takes a similar amount of damage to Lucian. This is usually reflective of different amounts of tankyness, yet it can also hint that the champ with more HP has less agility and thus is unable to kite away from further damage when engaged or poked.

Differences between Thresh and Lucian

Damage Types Compared

Thresh
Lucian
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Thresh
Lucian

Who is Better, Thresh or Lucian?

Both League champions are great champions. Both have their pros and cons. In League's current meta, Thresh usually loses when playing against Lucian, with a 48.7% win rate. As a result, Thresh makes a poor counter to Lucian.

While Thresh does have a lower win rate than Lucian, when facing one another, Thresh also has a greater difficulty level that makes him a more complex champ to learn and master. You still need to be cautious when picking Thresh into Lucianas his relative depth means you may not be able to reach his full potential without a significant amount of practice beforehand.

Additionally, Thresh has a great amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Lucian. This makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when facing champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there is not one best champion overall in League of Legends, in Thresh vs Lucian matchups, Lucian is the better champ with a lower win rate, more champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your team members during team fights.

Thresh is a somewhat poor counter for Lucian. You will do well by focussing your play on keeping up your gold income and clearing objectives. If you do that, you should be able to stand on your own as Thresh against Lucian.

Additional Information for Thresh Players

How We Calculated Our Thresh vs Lucian Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Lucian as Thresh, we analyzed 9,344 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Lucian as Thresh comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

If you would like to truly master Thresh to counter Lucian during both the early game and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to pick up a few extra tips and tricks for this matchup. If you mind the build and stats displayed here, you will grow your win rate significantly and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Thresh usually accumulates a lot less CS as Lucian. Champs who typically don't acquire many minion kills often don't require much CS to be valuable teammates, such as support champions. They are capable of scaling well off of their abilities and first items alone. Yet, champs with large amounts of CS, such as hyper-carries, usually require several high cost items to be effective. In either situation, try to do better than the numbers displayed here to do well.

The most crucial items to focus on in your Thresh versus Lucian build consist of Thornmail, Knight's Vow, and Locket of the Iron Solari. When Thresh bought at least these three items in his build, he performed a lot better vs. Lucian than with many other common counter builds. In fact, Thresh boasted an average win rate of 48.7% when playing against Lucian with these items in his kit.

To have the highest likelihood of crushing Lucian as Thresh, Thresh players should take the Aftershock, Font of Life, Bone Plating, Unflinching, Biscuit Delivery, and Cosmic Insight runes from the Resolve and Inspiration rune sets. Out of all the rune sets that we analyzed for Thresh vs Lucian matchups, this order of runes yielded the best win rate. Notably, these runes gave a 48.7% win rate overall.

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