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How to Win Talon vs Zyra Counter MatchupTalon is in the a tier of champions

Talon vs Zyra

How to Beat Zyra as Talon in LoLTalon is in the s tier of champions
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How to Beat Zyra as Talon

based on 3,321 Talon vs Zyra matchups
Win Rate
47.9 %
K/D/A
2.1
Pick Rate
4.1 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We at MOBA Champion evaluate millions of ranked LoL matches each week. In our database, Talon engaged Zyra in 3321 games. Having so many games with Talon vs Zyra provides us faith in our ability to prepare informative stats and a supported build to suppress Zyra. This particular matchup is somewhat uncommon. Talon is forced to battle against Zyra in only 4.1% of his games.

Talon vs Zyra Matchup Summary

Unfortunately, Talon does a below average job of beating Zyra. Normally, he wins a lowly 47.9% of games the champions face off with each other in. In Talon against Zyra games, Talon’s team is 0.0% more probable to obtain first blood, indicating that he probably will get first blood against Zyra.

Best Talon vs Zyra Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Doran's BladeHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Serrated DirkRectrix

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Edge of NightSerylda's GrudgeAxiom Arc

Optional Items

Maw of MalmortiusOpportunityEclipseYoumuu's Ghostblade

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

PrecisionConquerorTriumphLegend: TenacityLast Stand
InspirationMagical FootwearMinion Dematerializer
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceHealth Scaling
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
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W
2
Q
3
E
4
W
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W
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R
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W
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Guide to Countering Zyra as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Zyra

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Zyra

Moving closer to Zyra can be a smart move if she places plants too far away from herself.

Moving the fight to a different area will deprive Zyra of accumulated seeds.

Plants take fixed damage from attacks and effects, similar to wards. They also expire quickly on their own.

Seeds placed by Zyra's W are larger, a different color, and grant a small amount of vision to her team.

Zyra's seeds can be destroyed by stepping on them. If she tries to grow them as you do, dodge back at the last moment.

Talon vs Zyra Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
47.9 %
VS
Win Rate
52.1 %
Zyra Image
9.3
< Kills >
3.8
7.2
< Deaths >
6.6
5.8
< Assists >
10.9
2.11
< Killing Sprees >
0.81
140
< Minions Killed >
55
0.42
< Dragons Killed >
0.11
0.34
< Inhibitors >
0.46
22,841
< Physical Damage >
1,010
84
< Magic Damage >
19,526
1,244
< True Damage >
1,045
24,169
< Damage Dealt >
21,582
29,146
< Damage Taken >
19,229
13,092
< Gold Earned >
9,817
1.36
< Towers >
1.66
0.09
< Baron Takedowns >
0.03
6,553
< Total Healing >
1,996
15,187
< Experience >
11,669
19
< Vision Score >
61
6
< Wards Placed >
26
191
< Time Dealing CC >
269

How to Counter Zyra with Talon in LoL

The stat comparisons shown on this page show some vital Talon versus Zyra counter stats that can help you understand the distinctions between the pair. Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is more than Zyra’s ratio of NaN, indicating that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting effectiveness than Zyra. This observation is in large part fueled by the difference in kills.

Talon normally has a much larger longest kill spree than his foe does. Typically, he receives more damage than Zyra. This commonly reflects different amounts of tankyness, yet it can also illustrate that the champ with increased HP has less agility and thus is not able to escape additional harm when poked or engaged.

Differences between Talon and Zyra

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Zyra
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Zyra

Who is Better, Talon or Zyra?

Both League of Legends champions are great champions. Both champs have their pros and cons. In the game's current meta, Talon usually loses when facing off against Zyra, with a 47.9% win rate. Thus, Talon makes a bad counter to Zyra.

While Talon does have a lower winrate compared to Zyra, when facing one another, Talon also has a greater level of difficulty that makes him a more challenging champion to learn and master. You should expect to face a difficult match when picking Talon into Zyraas his relative depth means that you may not be able to reach his full potential without a lot of practice beforehand.

Additionally, Talon has only a small amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Zyra. This makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when facing champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there isn't one best champion overall in League of Legends, in Talon vs Zyra matchups, Zyra is the better champion with a lower win rate, similar champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your teammates during teamfights.

Talon is a terribly counter to Zyra. Focus your gameplay on increasing your gold income and taking out objectives. If you are able to do that, you should be able to stand on your own as Talon against Zyra.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Zyra Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Zyra as Talon, we analyzed 3,321 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Zyra as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

If you would like to truly master Talon in order to counter Zyra during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to learn a few extra tricks and insights into this matchup. If you listen to the build and stats shown above, you will grow your win rate by a lot and be closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon usually picks up more CS as Zyra. Champs who typically don't get many minion kills often don't need much CS to be effective, such as sup champs. They are capable of scaling well off of their abilities and first items alone. Yet, champs with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, usually have to have many items to be effective. In either situation, try to exceed the numbers displayed on this page to do well.

The most important items to focus on in your Talon versus Zyra build include Edge of Night, Serylda's Grudge, and Axiom Arc. When Talon used at least these three items in his build, he performed a lot better against Zyra than with many other typical builds. In fact, Talon boasted an average winrate of 47.9% when playing against Zyra with these items in his kit.

To have the best probability of crushing Zyra as Talon, Talon players should take the Conqueror, Triumph, Legend: Tenacity, Last Stand, Magical Footwear, and Minion Dematerializer runes from the Precision and Inspiration rune sets. Out of all the runes that we analyzed for Talon vs Zyra fights, this composite of runes yielded the greatest win rate. Moreover, these runes provided a 47.9% win rate overall.

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