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Talon vs Vi

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How to Beat Vi as Talon

based on 2,279 Talon vs Vi matchups
Win Rate
47 %
K/D/A
2.08
Pick Rate
2.8 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

At MOBA Champion, we analyze millions of recently ranked League of Legends games each and every week. Within our data, Talon faced Vi 2279 times. Using so many games with Talon vs Vi gives us a lot of confidence in our capability to produce actionable data and a pro build to crush your rival. This pairing is somewhat rare. Talon has to counter Vi in only 2.8% of his rounds.

Talon vs Vi Matchup Summary

Unfortunately, Talon has done a below average job of beating Vi. On average, he wins a lowly 47.0% of matches the champions fight each other in. In Talon against Vi games, Talon’s side is 0.0% more probable to obtain first blood, implying that he probably will be able to get first blood against Vi.

Best Talon vs Vi Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Long SwordRefillable Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Serrated DirkRectrix

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Serylda's GrudgeAxiom ArcOpportunity

Optional Items

Edge of NightHubrisYoumuu's GhostbladeVoltaic Cyclosword

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

PrecisionConquerorTriumphLegend: TenacityLast Stand
InspirationMagical FootwearMinion Dematerializer
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceHealth Scaling
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
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W
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Q
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E
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W
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W
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R
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Guide to Countering Vi as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Vi

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Vi

Vi cannot be stopped while using her ult. Remember to save your displacement effects until after she's done charging.

A fully charged Vault breaker deals double damage. If you see Vi start to charge you should back off or try to dodge it.

Vi will shred your Armor and gain Attack Speed if she manages to hit you three times in a row. Try not to engage in extended brawls with her.

Talon vs Vi Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
47 %
VS
Win Rate
53 %
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8.6
< Kills >
6.6
7.1
< Deaths >
6.4
6.2
< Assists >
8
1.97
< Killing Sprees >
1.53
138
< Minions Killed >
34
0.39
< Dragons Killed >
1.69
0.32
< Inhibitors >
0.44
21,742
< Physical Damage >
16,839
81
< Magic Damage >
84
1,214
< True Damage >
878
23,037
< Damage Dealt >
17,801
28,017
< Damage Taken >
30,543
12,657
< Gold Earned >
11,833
1.4
< Towers >
1.4
0.09
< Baron Takedowns >
0.35
6,119
< Total Healing >
11,397
14,574
< Experience >
13,730
18
< Vision Score >
23
6
< Wards Placed >
6
189
< Time Dealing CC >
292

How to Counter Vi with Talon in LoL

The stat comparisons shown on this page show some influential Talon against Vi matchup stats that can help you understand the distinctions between this pair of champions. Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is more than Vi’s KDA ratio of NaN, showing that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting potential than Vi..

Talon typically has a slightly larger longest killing spree than his enemy does. Commonly, he takes a similar amount of damage to Vi. This typically indicates differing health capacities, but it can also illustrate that the champion with increased HP has less agility and thus is unable to flee from additional damage when engaged or poked.

Differences between Talon and Vi

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Vi
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Vi

Who is Better, Talon or Vi?

Both LoL champs are great. Both have their strengths, weaknesses, and counters. In the game's current meta, Talon usually loses when taking on Vi, with a 47.0% win rate. Thus, Talon makes a poor counter for Vi.

While Talon does have a lower win rate than Vi, when they face off with one another, Talon also has a much greater difficulty level that makes him a more challenging champion to develop with. You should be very concerned when picking Talon into Vias his relative depth means you may not be able to unleash his full potential without a significant amount of practice beforehand.

Moreover, Talon has almost no amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Vi. This often makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when trying to counter champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there isn't one best champion overall in League of Legends, in Talon vs Vi matchups, Vi is the better champ with a much lower win rate, more champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your team members during late stage team fights.

Talon is a trash counter for Vi. Focus your strategy on increasing your gold income and taking out objectives. If you do that, you should do very well as Talon against Vi.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Vi Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Vi as Talon, we analyzed 2,279 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Vi as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To learn all of the intricacies of Talon in order to counter Vi during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to gather a few extra lessons on this matchup. If you pay attention to the build and stats displayed above, you should grow your win rate significantly and be closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon often gets much more CS compared to Vi. Champs who on average don't take many minion kills typically don't have to have much CS to be effective, such as supports. These kinds of champions are able to scale well off of their abilities and first items alone. Yet, champions with large amounts of CS, such as hyper-carries, typically require several high cost items to be effective. In either situation, try to exceed the numbers reported on this page to do well.

The most crucial items to prioritize in your Talon versus Vi build consist of Serylda's Grudge, Axiom Arc, and Opportunity. When Talon combined at least these three items in his build, he performed a lot better when facing Vi than with most other common counter builds. In fact, Talon boasted an average winrate of 47.0% when playing against Vi with this build.

To have the greatest probability of vanquishing Vi as Talon, Talon players should use the Conqueror, Triumph, Legend: Tenacity, Last Stand, Magical Footwear, and Minion Dematerializer runes from the Precision and Inspiration rune sets. Of all the rune combinations we have analyed for Talon vs Vi counterpicks, this combo of runes resulted in the best win rate. In fact, these runes provided a 47.0% win rate overall.

By default, tips, stats, and builds on how to beat Vi as Talon are displayed for all skill levels, merged. If you would like to scope the stats and builds to an individual skill level, you should use the selection menu located earlier in the counter matchup guide.