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Talon vs Vayne

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How to Beat Vayne as Talon

based on 4,343 Talon vs Vayne matchups
Win Rate
49.2 %
K/D/A
2.19
Pick Rate
5.3 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We at MOBA Champion summarize millions of recently ranked LoL rounds each and every week. Within our dataset, Talon faced off against Vayne in 4343 matches. With so many games with Talon vs Vayne provides us a lot of confidence in our capability to prepare enlightening data and a recommended build to defeat your enemy. This pairing is fairly uncommon. Talon fights Vayne in only 5.3% of his matches.

Talon vs Vayne Matchup Summary

Unfortunately, Talon has done a below average job of beating Vayne. Normally, he wins a acceptable 49.2% of matches the champions face off with each other in. In Talon vs Vayne games, Talon’s team is 0.0% more likely to gain first blood, indicating that he probably will get first blood versus Vayne.

Best Talon vs Vayne Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Long SwordRefillable Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Long SwordThe Brutalizer

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Edge of NightAxiom ArcProfane Hydra

Optional Items

Maw of MalmortiusSerylda's GrudgeSundered SkyOpportunity

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

DominationElectrocuteSudden ImpactEyeball CollectionRelentless Hunter
SorceryNimbus CloakAbsolute Focus
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceHealth Scaling
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
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W
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Q
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W
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E
5
W
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R
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Guide to Countering Vayne as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Vayne

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Vayne

Deny Vayne the opportunity to pin you against walls.

Vayne is fragile - turn the pressure up on her and she will be forced to play cautiously.

Talon vs Vayne Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
49.2 %
VS
Win Rate
50.8 %
Vayne Image
8.8
< Kills >
7.4
6.8
< Deaths >
6.7
6.1
< Assists >
5.5
2
< Killing Sprees >
1.72
137
< Minions Killed >
166
0.46
< Dragons Killed >
0.2
0.36
< Inhibitors >
0.5
21,865
< Physical Damage >
14,998
83
< Magic Damage >
1,457
1,218
< True Damage >
4,240
23,166
< Damage Dealt >
20,697
27,504
< Damage Taken >
22,172
12,740
< Gold Earned >
12,175
1.4
< Towers >
2.21
0.11
< Baron Takedowns >
0.07
6,293
< Total Healing >
6,025
14,699
< Experience >
13,059
18
< Vision Score >
18
6
< Wards Placed >
9
189
< Time Dealing CC >
68

How to Counter Vayne with Talon in LoL

The stats shown here highlight several valuable Talon against Vayne matchup stats that may help us realize the differences and similarities between the two. As an example, Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is more than Vayne’s KDA ratio of NaN, highlighting that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting capability than Vayne..

Talon often has a similar longest kill spree as his matchup does. Typically, he receives more damage than Vayne. This often reflects different amounts of tankyness, but it can also illustrate that the one champ has less mobility and thus is unable to kite away from additional damage when engaged or poked.

Differences between Talon and Vayne

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Vayne
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Vayne

Who is Better, Talon or Vayne?

Both LoL champions are great champions. Both have their pros and cons. In League's current meta, Talon usually fairs equally well when trying to fight Vayne, with a 49.2% win rate. Thus, Talon makes an ok counter for Vayne.

While Talon does have a lower winrate than Vayne, when on opposite teams, Talon also has a lower learning curve that makes him a less difficult champion to learn and master. You should be careful when picking Talon into Vayneas his relative depth means you may not be able to reach his full potential without a significant amount of practice beforehand.

Moreover, Talon has only a small amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Vayne. This often makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when trying to counter champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there isn't a single best champion in League of Legends, in Talon vs Vayne matchups, Vayne is the better champ with a similar win rate, less champion complexity, and a similar amount of utility to help out your allied champions during late stage team fights.

Talon is a somewhat poor counter for Vayne. You will do well by focussing your play on maximizing your CS and destroying objectives. If you are able to do that, you should be able to stand on your own as Talon against Vayne.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Vayne Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Vayne as Talon, we analyzed 4,343 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Vayne as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

If you would like to truly master Talon to counter Vayne during both the early game and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to gather a few extra tricks and insights into this matchup. If you pay attention to the build and suggestions displayed here, you will increase your win rate significantly and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon on average accumulates a similar amount of CS compared to Vayne. Champions who typically don't take much CS typically don't need much CS to be effective, such as support champions. These kinds of champions are capable of scaling well off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champions with large amounts of CS, such as hyper-carries, often require a lot of items to be effective. In either situation, try to exceed the values displayed here to do well.

The most important items to have in your Talon versus Vayne build include Edge of Night, Axiom Arc, and Profane Hydra. When Talon incorporated at least these three pieces in his build, he did a lot better vs Vayne than with many other commonly used builds. In fact, Talon had an average win rate of 49.2% battling Vayne with this build.

To have the greatest probability of beating Vayne as Talon, Talon players should take the Electrocute, Sudden Impact, Eyeball Collection, Relentless Hunter, Nimbus Cloak, and Absolute Focus runes from the Domination and Sorcery rune sets. Out of all the rune builds players used for Talon vs Vayne counters, this mix of runes yielded the highest win rate. In fact, these runes gave a 49.2% winrate overall.

By default, tips, statistics, and builds on how to beat Vayne as Talon are shown for all skill levels combined. If you would like to narrow the statistics and builds to a distinct player tier, you should use the selection menu located earlier on the page.