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Talon vs Shen

How to Beat Shen as Talon in LoLTalon is in the a tier of champions
Assassin
Tank

How to Beat Shen as Talon

based on 1,381 Talon vs Shen matchups
Win Rate
47.7 %
K/D/A
1.96
Pick Rate
1.7 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We at MOBA Champion summarize millions of recently ranked League of Legends matches every week. In our data, Talon fought Shen in 1381 games. Having so many games with Talon vs Shen gives us confidence in our capability to prepare informative statistics and a pro build to wreck Shen. This matchup is relatively rare. Talon encounters Shen in only 1.7% of his matches.

Talon vs Shen Matchup Summary

Unfortunately, Talon has done a dismal job of beating Shen. On average, he wins a lowly 47.7% of the time the champions oppose one another in. In Talon against Shen games, Talon’s side is 0.0% more expected to earn first blood, indicating that he probably will be able to get first blood versus Shen.

Best Talon vs Shen Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Long SwordRefillable Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Long SwordGlowing Mote

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Serylda's GrudgeAxiom ArcProfane Hydra

Optional Items

HubrisEdge of NightYoumuu's GhostbladeVoltaic Cyclosword

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

InspirationFirst StrikeMagical FootwearMinion DematerializerCosmic Insight
DominationSudden ImpactTreasure Hunter
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceMagic Resist
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
1
W
2
Q
3
W
4
E
5
W
6
R
7
W
8
Q
9
W
10
Q
11
R
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Q
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Q
14
E
15
E
16
R

Guide to Countering Shen as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Shen

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Shen

Be ready to dodge Shen's taunt and punish him if he misses.

Once Shen reaches level 6, watch out for his global-range ultimate, which can turn fights quickly.

Talon vs Shen Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
47.7 %
VS
Win Rate
52.3 %
Shen Image
8.2
< Kills >
4.4
7.3
< Deaths >
5
6.1
< Assists >
10.9
1.89
< Killing Sprees >
1.02
135
< Minions Killed >
132
0.47
< Dragons Killed >
0.11
0.35
< Inhibitors >
0.44
21,726
< Physical Damage >
8,470
77
< Magic Damage >
7,251
1,165
< True Damage >
1,195
22,968
< Damage Dealt >
16,917
28,645
< Damage Taken >
30,985
12,737
< Gold Earned >
10,493
1.42
< Towers >
1.87
0.11
< Baron Takedowns >
0.03
6,648
< Total Healing >
4,053
14,601
< Experience >
14,487
18
< Vision Score >
22
6
< Wards Placed >
11
198
< Time Dealing CC >
346

How to Counter Shen with Talon in LoL

The stats provided here emphasize some important Talon vs. Shen counter statistics that can help us appreciate the differences and similarities between the pair. For instance, Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is greater than Shen’s ratio of NaN, showing that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting potential than Shen. This observation is largely caused by the differences in killsdeaths.

Talon usually has a much larger longest killing spree than his enemy does. On average, he takes a similar amount of damage to Shen. This typically indicates different amounts of tankyness, yet it can also illustrate that the one champ has less mobility and thus is not able to escape further damage when poked or engaged.

Differences between Talon and Shen

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Shen
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Shen

Who is Better, Talon or Shen?

Both League champions are great champions. Both champs have their strengths, weaknesses, and counters. In League's current meta, Talon usually loses when taking on Shen, with a 47.7% win rate. As a result, Talon makes a bad counter to Shen.

While Talon does have a lower win rate than Shen, when on opposite teams, Talon also has a much greater learning curve that makes him a more difficult champ to learn. You may get destroyed when picking Talon into Shenas his relative depth means you may not be able to unleash his full potential without a significant amount of practice beforehand.

Moreover, Talon also has only a small amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Shen. This often makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when fighting champions with a ton of burst damage.

While there is not one best champion for every situation in League of Legends, in Talon vs Shen matchups, Shen is the better champ with a lower win rate, more champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your allies during teamfights.

Talon is a terribly counter for Shen. Focus your actions on maximizing your gold and cs and destroying objectives. If you do that, you should hold your own as Talon against Shen.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Shen Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Shen as Talon, we analyzed 1,381 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Shen as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

If you would like to learn all of the intricacies of Talon to counter Shen during both the laning and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to gather a few extra tricks and insights into this matchup. If you mind the build and suggestions displayed above, you will grow your win rate significantly and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon most often gets a similar amount of CS compared to Shen. Champions who on average don't take much CS often don't need much CS to be valuable teammates, such as support champions. They are able to scale well off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champions with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, usually need several high cost items to be effective. In either situation, try to surpass the values shown here to do well.

The most important items to prioritize in your Talon versus Shen build include Serylda's Grudge, Axiom Arc, and Profane Hydra. When Talon incorporated at least these three pieces in his build, he did significantly better vs Shen than with many other typical builds. In fact, Talon had an average winrate of 47.7% battling Shen with these items in his kit.

To have the best chance of crushing Shen as Talon, Talon players should use the First Strike, Magical Footwear, Minion Dematerializer, Cosmic Insight, Sudden Impact, and Treasure Hunter runes from the Inspiration and Domination rune sets. Of all the rune combinations that we analyzed for Talon vs Shen matchups, this mixture of runes resulted in the highest win rate. Notably, these runes averaged a 47.7% win rate overall.

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