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Talon vs Riven

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How to Beat Riven as Talon

based on 2,900 Talon vs Riven matchups
Win Rate
49.6 %
K/D/A
2.09
Pick Rate
3.5 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We at MOBA Champion summarize millions of ranked League games each and every week. Within our database, Talon did battle with Riven 2900 times. Including so many games with Talon versus Riven gives us confidence in our capability to prepare informative stats and a pro build to suppress Riven. This particular counter matchup is somewhat rare. Talon fights Riven in only 3.5% of his rounds.

Talon vs Riven Matchup Summary

Talon has done a ok job of beating Riven. Normally, he wins a acceptable 49.6% of the time the champs oppose each other in. In Talon vs Riven rounds, Talon’s team is 0.1% less likely to get first blood, indicating that he most likely won't get first blood against Riven.

Best Talon vs Riven Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Long SwordRefillable Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Long SwordPickaxe

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Serylda's GrudgeProfane HydraOpportunity

Optional Items

Sundered SkyAxiom ArcEdge of NightEclipse

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

InspirationFirst StrikeMagical FootwearFuture's MarketCosmic Insight
DominationEyeball CollectionTreasure Hunter
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceHealth Scaling
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
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W
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Q
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W
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E
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W
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R
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Guide to Countering Riven as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Riven

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Riven

All of Riven's damage is physical, prioritize high Armor if an opposing Riven gets out of control.

Riven has a great deal of mobility but she cannot move very far with any one skill. Rooting or silencing her during her combo will greatly reduce her effectiveness.

Riven excels at dueling multiple melee attackers at once, as she will be on an almost equal footing damage-wise. If pairing up against Riven, don't go in as double melee until she has expended her full combo.

Talon vs Riven Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
49.6 %
VS
Win Rate
50.4 %
Riven Image
8.7
< Kills >
7.1
7
< Deaths >
6.2
5.9
< Assists >
4.6
1.99
< Killing Sprees >
1.64
139
< Minions Killed >
184
0.46
< Dragons Killed >
0.07
0.34
< Inhibitors >
0.44
21,108
< Physical Damage >
19,709
78
< Magic Damage >
63
1,200
< True Damage >
1,146
22,387
< Damage Dealt >
20,918
27,785
< Damage Taken >
25,464
12,816
< Gold Earned >
12,403
1.4
< Towers >
2.28
0.1
< Baron Takedowns >
0.02
6,432
< Total Healing >
5,401
14,751
< Experience >
15,280
18
< Vision Score >
17
6
< Wards Placed >
8
187
< Time Dealing CC >
129

How to Counter Riven with Talon in LoL

The stat comparisons shown on this page clarify some critical Talon versus Riven matchup stats that can help you grasp the differences and similarities between this set of champs. As an example, Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is better than Riven’s ratio of NaN, highlighting that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting capacity than Riven..

Talon normally has a slightly larger longest killing spree than his counter does. Typically, he takes a similar amount of damage to Riven. This typically indicates different amounts of tankyness, but it can also indicate that the one champion has less agility and thus is not able to escape further harm when engaged or poked.

Differences between Talon and Riven

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Riven
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Riven

Who is Better, Talon or Riven?

Both League of Legends champions are great. Both have their pros and cons. In League's current meta, Talon usually fairs equally well when facing off against Riven, with a 49.6% win rate. Therefore, Talon makes an ok counter for Riven.

While Talon does have a lower win rate than Riven, when on opposite teams, Talon also has a lower level of difficulty that makes him a less time consuming champion to learn and master. You still need to be cautious when picking Talon into Rivenas his relative depth means that you may not be able to reach his full potential without a lot of practice beforehand.

Additionally, Talon has almost no amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Riven. This often makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when facing champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there isn't a single best champion overall in League of Legends, in Talon vs Riven matchups, Riven is the better champion with a similar win rate, less champion complexity, and a similar amount of utility to help out your allied champions during late stage team fights.

Talon is a somewhat poor counter for Riven. You will do well by focussing your strategy on increasing your CS and clearing objectives. If you are able to do that, you should hold your own as Talon against Riven.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Riven Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Riven as Talon, we analyzed 2,900 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Riven as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To truly master Talon to counter Riven during both the laning and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to gather a few extra tips and tricks for this matchup. If you pay attention to the build and suggestions presented here, you should grow your win rate significantly and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon typically picks up a similar amount of CS as Riven. Champs who on average don't get much CS usualy don't require much CS to be valuable teammates, such as sup champs. These kinds of champions are capable of scaling well off of their abilities and first items alone. Yet, champs with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, usually require several high cost items to be effective. In either situation, try to surpass the values shown on this page to do well.

The top items to prioritize in your Talon versus Riven build include Serylda's Grudge, Profane Hydra, and Opportunity. When Talon combined at least these three items in his build, he did a lot better vs. Riven than with most other common item sets. In fact, Talon had an average win rate of 49.6% when playing against Riven with these items in his kit.

To have the highest probability of vanquishing Riven as Talon, you should equip the First Strike, Magical Footwear, Future's Market, Cosmic Insight, Eyeball Collection, and Treasure Hunter runes from the Inspiration and Domination rune sets. Out of all the rune sets players chose for Talon vs Riven counterpicks, this sequence of runes yielded the greatest win rate. Notably, these runes gave a 49.6% win rate overall.

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