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How to Win Talon vs Ornn Counter MatchupTalon is in the a tier of champions

Talon vs Ornn

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How to Beat Ornn as Talon

based on 1,842 Talon vs Ornn matchups
Win Rate
49.3 %
K/D/A
2.14
Pick Rate
2.3 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We calculate our counter stats from the millions of recently rated League of Legends rounds that we get from Riot Games each week. Our guide on how to beat Ornn as Talon came out of an evaluation of 1842 ranked rounds where both champions fought one another. This counter pairing is relatively rare. Talon has to counter Ornn in only 2.3% of his rounds.

Talon vs Ornn Matchup Summary

Unfortunately, Talon has done a below average job of beating Ornn. On average, he wins a acceptable 49.3% of games the champions face each other in. In Talon vs Ornn rounds, Talon’s team is 0.1% more expected to earn first blood. This indicates that he probably will get first blood against Ornn.

Best Talon vs Ornn Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Long SwordRefillable Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Serrated DirkRectrix

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Youmuu's GhostbladeEdge of NightAxiom Arc

Optional Items

OpportunityHubrisSerylda's GrudgeVoltaic Cyclosword

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

DominationElectrocuteSudden ImpactEyeball CollectionRelentless Hunter
SorceryNimbus CloakAbsolute Focus
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceMagic Resist
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
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W
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Q
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W
4
E
5
W
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R
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Guide to Countering Ornn as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Ornn

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Ornn

Try to stay away from walls. Ornn is much less strong if he cannot stun you.

Attack Ornn to keep him from creating items in lane.

Talon vs Ornn Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
49.3 %
VS
Win Rate
50.7 %
Ornn Image
8.6
< Kills >
3.9
6.9
< Deaths >
5
6.2
< Assists >
8.5
1.94
< Killing Sprees >
0.9
137
< Minions Killed >
170
0.46
< Dragons Killed >
0.06
0.35
< Inhibitors >
0.43
22,030
< Physical Damage >
6,519
84
< Magic Damage >
12,694
1,252
< True Damage >
364
23,367
< Damage Dealt >
19,578
28,233
< Damage Taken >
34,280
12,818
< Gold Earned >
10,844
1.48
< Towers >
2.15
0.1
< Baron Takedowns >
0.01
6,642
< Total Healing >
4,146
14,699
< Experience >
15,040
19
< Vision Score >
17
6
< Wards Placed >
8
196
< Time Dealing CC >
570

How to Counter Ornn with Talon in LoL

The stats provided here feature several valuable Talon vs. Ornn matchup statistics that may help you understand the differences and similarities between the pair. Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is more than Ornn’s ratio of NaN, demonstrating that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting effectiveness than Ornn. This observation is in large part a result of the difference in kills.

Talon typically has a much larger longest killing spree than his matchup does. Commonly, he takes less damage than Ornn. This often reflects different amounts of tankyness; however, it can also imply that the one champ has less mobility and thus is not able to flee from further damage when engaged or poked.

Differences between Talon and Ornn

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Ornn
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Ornn

Who is Better, Talon or Ornn?

Both League of Legends champions are great. Both champs have their pros and cons. In League's current meta, Talon usually fairs equally well when taking on Ornn, with a 49.3% win rate. Thus, Talon makes an ok counter for Ornn.

While Talon does have a lower winrate than Ornn, when they face off with one another, Talon also has a greater learning curve that makes him a more complex champ to pick up and master. You should be careful when picking Talon into Ornnas his relative depth means you may not be able to unleash his full potential without a lot of practice beforehand.

Furthermore, Talon has only a small amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Ornn. This often makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when trying to counter champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there is not one best champion in League of Legends, in Talon vs Ornn matchups, Ornn is the better champion with a similar win rate, more champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your teammates during teamfights.

Talon is a somewhat poor counter for Ornn. Focus your actions on increasing your gold income and destroying objectives. If you do that, you should do very well as Talon against Ornn.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Ornn Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Ornn as Talon, we analyzed 1,842 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Ornn as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

If you would like to truly master Talon in order to counter Ornn during both the early game and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to pick up a few extra lessons on this matchup. If you mind the build and suggestions shown above, you should grow your win rate by a lot and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon typically picks up a similar amount of CS relative to Ornn. Champs who on average don't acquire much CS usualy don't require much CS to be valuable teammates, such as sup champs. These kinds of champions are able to scale properly off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champs with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, often have to have several high cost items to be effective. In either situation, try to exceed the numbers reported here to do well.

The best items to have in your Talon versus Ornn build include Youmuu's Ghostblade, Edge of Night, and Axiom Arc. When Talon combined at least these three items in his build, he performed much better countering Ornn than with most other commonly used item sets. In fact, Talon boasted an average winrate of 49.3% when countering Ornn with these items in his kit.

To have the greatest likelihood of defeating Ornn as Talon, Talon players should take the Electrocute, Sudden Impact, Eyeball Collection, Relentless Hunter, Absolute Focus, and Nimbus Cloak runes from the Domination and Sorcery rune sets. Out of all the runes that we analyzed for Talon vs Ornn face-offs, this combo of runes resulted in the highest win rate. Moreover, these runes provided a 49.3% win rate overall.

If you want to see Talon versus Ornn tips and counter stats for a a distinct division, feel free to select one from the selection menu above. At first, the stats and guides given are computed using every round completed with both champs.