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How to Win Talon vs Orianna Counter MatchupTalon is in the a tier of champions

Talon vs Orianna

How to Beat Orianna as Talon in LoLTalon is in the b tier of champions
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How to Beat Orianna as Talon

based on 1,077 Talon vs Orianna matchups
Win Rate
52 %
K/D/A
2.18
Pick Rate
1.3 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We calculate our matchup stats from the millions of rated LoL games that we analyze every week. Our guide on how to beat Orianna as Talon resulted from an examination of 1077 ranked rounds where both champs opposed one another. This counter matchup is relatively rare. Talon is forced to battle against Orianna in only 1.3% of his games.

Talon vs Orianna Matchup Summary

Talon does a good job of beating Orianna. Normally, he wins a terrific 52.0% of matches the champs oppose each other in. In Talon against Orianna games, Talon’s side is 0.1% more expected to earn first blood. This implies that he probably will be able to get first blood versus Orianna.

Best Talon vs Orianna Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Gustwalker HatchlingHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Glowing MoteTiamat

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Youmuu's GhostbladeEdge of NightAxiom Arc

Optional Items

OpportunitySerylda's GrudgeHubrisProfane Hydra

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

InspirationFirst StrikeMagical FootwearMinion DematerializerCosmic Insight
DominationSudden ImpactTreasure Hunter
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceHealth Scaling
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
1
W
2
Q
3
W
4
E
5
W
6
R
7
W
8
Q
9
W
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Q
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R
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Q
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Q
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E
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R

Guide to Countering Orianna as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Orianna

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Orianna

Orianna can only affect the area the Ball is around. Use this to your advantage.

Watch out for Orianna's Ball returning to her due to leashing. This may cause some unexpected situations.

Talon vs Orianna Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
52 %
VS
Win Rate
48 %
Orianna Image
8.5
< Kills >
5.6
6.6
< Deaths >
5.7
5.9
< Assists >
9.1
1.89
< Killing Sprees >
1.3
135
< Minions Killed >
175
0.45
< Dragons Killed >
0.08
0.33
< Inhibitors >
0.52
20,814
< Physical Damage >
1,075
74
< Magic Damage >
20,040
1,157
< True Damage >
305
22,045
< Damage Dealt >
21,421
27,786
< Damage Taken >
19,102
12,666
< Gold Earned >
11,537
1.41
< Towers >
2.14
0.12
< Baron Takedowns >
0.03
6,477
< Total Healing >
1,864
14,765
< Experience >
14,662
19
< Vision Score >
21
6
< Wards Placed >
10
191
< Time Dealing CC >
340

How to Counter Orianna with Talon in LoL

The stat comparisons provided here clarify some valuable Talon vs. Orianna counter stats that may help you appreciate the differences and similarities between the pair. For instance, Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is more than Orianna’s ratio of NaN, demonstrating that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting potential than Orianna..

Talon usually has a slightly larger longest killing spree than his enemy does. Typically, he takes more damage than Orianna. This commonly reflects different amounts of tankyness; however, it can also show that the champion with more HP has less mobility and thus is unable to escape further harm when poked or engaged.

Differences between Talon and Orianna

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Orianna
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Orianna

Who is Better, Talon or Orianna?

Both League of Legends champions are great. Both champs have their pros and cons. In the game's current meta, Talon usually wins when facing off against Orianna, with a 52.0% win rate. As a result, Talon makes a good counter to Orianna.

While Talon does have a higher win rate than Orianna, when on opposite teams, Talon also has a greater level of difficulty that makes him a more time consuming champ to learn. You should be careful when picking Talon into Oriannaas his relative depth means you may not be able to reach his full potential without a significant amount of practice beforehand.

Moreover, Talon also has only a small amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Orianna. This often makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when trying to counter champions with a ton of burst damage.

While there is not a single best champion overall in League of Legends, in Talon vs Orianna matchups, Talon is the better champion with a higher win rate, similar champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your allies during teamfights.

Talon is a decent counter to Orianna. Make sure you focus your strategy on increasing your CS and clearing objectives. If you do that, you should do very well as Talon against Orianna.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Orianna Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Orianna as Talon, we analyzed 1,077 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Orianna as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To learn all of the intricacies of Talon in order to counter Orianna during both the laning and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to pick up a few extra tricks and insights into this matchup. If you listen to the build and suggestions displayed above, you should increase your win rate by a lot and be closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon typically racks up a similar amount of CS compared to Orianna. Champions who on average don't earn many minion kills usualy don't require much CS to be valuable teammates, such as support champions. They are capable of scaling properly off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champions with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, often require many items to be effective. In either case, try to exceed the values displayed here to do well.

The most important items to have in your Talon versus Orianna build consist of Youmuu's Ghostblade, Edge of Night, and Axiom Arc. When Talon used at least these three pieces in his build, he performed much better when facing Orianna than with most other common item sets. In fact, Talon boasted an average winrate of 52.0% when playing against Orianna with this build.

To have the greatest likelihood of crushing Orianna as Talon, you should equip the First Strike, Magical Footwear, Minion Dematerializer, Cosmic Insight, Sudden Impact, and Treasure Hunter runes from the Inspiration and Domination rune sets. Of all the runes players used for Talon vs Orianna counter picks, this set of runes yielded the greatest win rate. Moreover, these runes provided a 52.0% winrate overall.

If you need to see Talon versus Orianna tips and counter builds for a an individual player tier, please select one from the selection menu provided above. At first, the stats and strategies given are calculated using all matches played with these champions.