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How to Win Talon vs Karthus Counter MatchupTalon is in the a tier of champions

Talon vs Karthus

How to Beat Karthus as Talon in LoLTalon is in the b tier of champions
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How to Beat Karthus as Talon

based on 1,055 Talon vs Karthus matchups
Win Rate
49.9 %
K/D/A
2.24
Pick Rate
1.3 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We get our matchup stats from the millions of rated LoL matches that we evaluate every week. Our guide on how to beat Karthus as Talon came out of an evaluation of 1055 ranked rounds where both champs faced each other. This particular counter pairing is somewhat rare. Talon encounters Karthus in only 1.3% of his games.

Talon vs Karthus Matchup Summary

Talon has done a average job of countering Karthus. On average, he wins a acceptable 49.9% of games the champions face off with each other in. In Talon against Karthus matches, Talon’s side is 0.1% more likely to obtain first blood, indicating that he probably will be able to get first blood versus Karthus.

Best Talon vs Karthus Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Long SwordRefillable Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Long SwordRectrix

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Youmuu's GhostbladeEdge of NightOpportunity

Optional Items

Axiom ArcMaw of MalmortiusSerylda's GrudgeProfane Hydra

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

DominationElectrocuteSudden ImpactEyeball CollectionRelentless Hunter
SorceryNimbus CloakAbsolute Focus
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceMagic Resist
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
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W
2
Q
3
W
4
E
5
W
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R
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W
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Guide to Countering Karthus as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Karthus

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Karthus

Karthus can cast spells for a short duration after he is killed. Move away from his corpse to be safe.

Make sure you always have enough health to survive Requiem, even if you have to go back to the base more frequently to heal.

Talon vs Karthus Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
49.9 %
VS
Win Rate
50.1 %
Karthus Image
9.7
< Kills >
7.3
7.2
< Deaths >
8
6.4
< Assists >
9.6
2.2
< Killing Sprees >
1.67
140
< Minions Killed >
91
0.53
< Dragons Killed >
0.91
0.33
< Inhibitors >
0.29
23,111
< Physical Damage >
251
91
< Magic Damage >
29,823
1,279
< True Damage >
2,052
24,481
< Damage Dealt >
32,127
30,720
< Damage Taken >
30,478
13,521
< Gold Earned >
13,157
1.42
< Towers >
1.07
0.13
< Baron Takedowns >
0.26
7,236
< Total Healing >
9,214
15,729
< Experience >
15,247
20
< Vision Score >
20
7
< Wards Placed >
8
197
< Time Dealing CC >
217

How to Counter Karthus with Talon in LoL

The stats provided here highlight several important Talon vs. Karthus counter stats that can help you figure out the differences between this set of champions. For instance, Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is more than Karthus’s ratio of NaN, showing that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting effectiveness than Karthus..

Talon typically has a slightly larger longest kill spree than his matchup does. On average, he takes a similar amount of damage to Karthus. This often reflects differing health capacities, but it can also indicate that the one champion has less agility and thus is unable to kite away from additional damage when poked or engaged.

Differences between Talon and Karthus

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Karthus
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Karthus

Who is Better, Talon or Karthus?

Both LoL champions are great champions. Both have their pros and cons. In League's current meta, Talon usually fairs equally well when facing off against Karthus, with a 49.9% win rate. Thus, Talon makes an ok counter for Karthus.

While Talon does have a lower win rate than Karthus, when facing one another, Talon also has a greater level of difficulty that makes him a more challenging champion to learn. You still need to be cautious when picking Talon into Karthusas his relative depth means that you may not be able to reach his full potential without a lot of practice beforehand.

Additionally, Talon also has almost no amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Karthus. This makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when trying to counter champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there is not a single best champion overall in League of Legends, in Talon vs Karthus matchups, Karthus is the better champ with a similar win rate, similar champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your allies during late stage team fights.

Talon is a somewhat poor counter for Karthus. Focus your tactics on keeping up your CS and taking out objectives. If you can do that, you should be able to stand on your own as Talon against Karthus.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Karthus Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Karthus as Talon, we analyzed 1,055 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Karthus as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

If you would like to truly master Talon in order to counter Karthus during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to pick up a few extra tips and tricks for this matchup. If you pay attention to the build and suggestions presented above, you will grow your win rate significantly and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon usually picks up more CS relative to Karthus. Champs who typically don't earn much CS often don't have to have much CS to be effective, such as sup champs. They are able to scale properly off of their abilities and first items alone. Yet, champions with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, often require a lot of items to be effective. In either case, try to do better than the numbers reported here to do well.

The top items to prioritize in your Talon versus Karthus build consist of Youmuu's Ghostblade, Edge of Night, and Opportunity. When Talon incorporated at least these three items in his build, he performed much better when facing Karthus than with many other common builds. In fact, Talon boasted an average winrate of 49.9% when playing against Karthus with these items in his kit.

To have the best chance of beating Karthus as Talon, Talon players should take the Electrocute, Sudden Impact, Eyeball Collection, Relentless Hunter, Nimbus Cloak, and Absolute Focus runes from the Domination and Sorcery rune sets. Out of all the rune builds players picked for Talon vs Karthus counter picks, this set of runes yielded the greatest win rate. Moreover, these runes provided a 49.9% winrate overall.

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