Talon vs Graves
How to Beat Graves as Talon
based on 4,122 Talon vs Graves matchupsHow We Analyze LoL Champion Counters
Talon vs Graves Matchup Summary
Best Talon vs Graves Counter Build
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Core Talon Items
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Guide to Countering Graves as Talon
Tips for Playing as Talon against Graves
Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.
You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.
Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.
Advice to Win Against Graves
Leaving the Smoke Screen's area of effect removes the harmful effect immediately.
Graves deals mostly physical damage so Armor is an effective counter.
Talon vs Graves Counter Stats
How to Counter Graves with Talon in LoL
The stat comparisons shown here show some critical Talon versus Graves counter stats that may help us appreciate the distinctions between the pair. As an example, Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is more than Graves’s ratio of NaN, indicating that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting capability than Graves..
Talon typically has a similar longest kill spree as his opponent does. Commonly, he receives a similar amount of damage to Graves. This typically indicates differing health capacities, yet it can also show that the one champion has less mobility and thus is unable to escape further harm when poked or engaged.
Differences between Talon and Graves
Damage Types Compared
Champion Playstyles Compared
Who is Better, Talon or Graves?
Both League of Legends champions are great. Both champs have their pros and cons. In League's current meta, Talon usually fairs equally well when playing against Graves, with a 49.7% win rate. Thus, Talon makes an ok counter to Graves.
While Talon does have a lower win rate than Graves, when they face off with one another, Talon also has a much greater learning curve that makes him a more difficult champion to pick up and master. You should be careful when picking Talon into Gravesas his relative depth means you may not be able to reach his full potential without a significant amount of practice beforehand.
Additionally, Talon also has almost no amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Graves. This makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when facing champions with a ton of burst damage.
While there is not a single best champion for every situation in League of Legends, in Talon vs Graves matchups, Graves is the better champ with a similar win rate, more champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your allies during teamfights.
Talon is a somewhat poor counter for Graves. Focus your strategy on maximizing your gold income and destroying objectives. If you are able to do that, you should be able to stand on your own as Talon against Graves.
Other Champion Matchups Against Talon
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How We Calculated Our Talon vs Graves Build and Stats
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Further Insights to Win this Matchup
To learn all of the intricacies of Talon in order to counter Graves during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to learn a few extra tricks and insights into this matchup. If you listen to the build and stats displayed here, you should increase your win rate significantly and be closer to League of Legends pro players.
Talon most often gets more CS as Graves. Champions who typically don't earn many minion kills usualy don't have to have much CS to be valuable teammates, such as support champions. They are capable of scaling properly off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champs with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, usually require a lot of items to be effective. In either case, try to surpass the values displayed here to do well.
The ideal items to focus on in your Talon versus Graves build include Youmuu's Ghostblade, Hubris, and Profane Hydra. When Talon bought at least these three items in his build, he performed much better countering Graves than with most other common builds. In fact, Talon had an average win rate of 49.7% when countering Graves with these items in his kit.
To have the best probability of beating Graves as Talon, you should equip the Electrocute, Sudden Impact, Eyeball Collection, Relentless Hunter, Nimbus Cloak, and Absolute Focus runes from the Domination and Sorcery rune sets. Of all the rune builds that we analyzed for Talon vs Graves LoL games, this order of runes yielded the best win rate. In fact, these runes averaged a 49.7% winrate overall.
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