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How to Win Talon vs Garen Counter MatchupTalon is in the a tier of champions

Talon vs Garen

How to Beat Garen as Talon in LoLTalon is in the b tier of champions
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How to Beat Garen as Talon

based on 2,733 Talon vs Garen matchups
Win Rate
50.5 %
K/D/A
2.1
Pick Rate
3.3 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We calculate our counter statistics from the millions of recently rated LoL matches that we evaluate every week. Our guide on how to beat Garen as Talon came out of an evaluation of 2733 ranked matches where both champions opposed each other. This champ pairing is somewhat rare. Talon fights Garen in only 3.3% of his games.

Talon vs Garen Matchup Summary

Talon has done a ok job of beating Garen. On average, he wins a acceptable 50.5% of games the champs face each other in. In Talon versus Garen rounds, Talon’s side is 0.1% more probable to get first blood. This indicates that he probably will get first blood against Garen.

Best Talon vs Garen Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Long SwordRefillable Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Serrated DirkRectrix

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Edge of NightAxiom ArcProfane Hydra

Optional Items

Serylda's GrudgeSundered SkyOpportunityEclipse

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

InspirationFirst StrikeMagical FootwearMinion DematerializerCosmic Insight
DominationSudden ImpactTreasure Hunter
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceMagic Resist
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
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W
2
Q
3
W
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E
5
W
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R
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W
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Guide to Countering Garen as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Garen

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Garen

Be careful about attacking Garen in brush. It often will lead to taking full damage from Judgment.

Stack armor items to lower the large amount of physical damage that Garen deals out.

Judgment deals maximum damage when only hitting a single target. If getting out of its radius isn't possible, move through allied minions to reduce damage taken.

Try to run away from Garen as your health gets lower, as he can execute you quickly with Demacian Justice.

Talon vs Garen Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
50.5 %
VS
Win Rate
49.5 %
Garen Image
8.4
< Kills >
6.3
6.9
< Deaths >
5.1
6.1
< Assists >
3.9
1.92
< Killing Sprees >
1.44
137
< Minions Killed >
183
0.43
< Dragons Killed >
0.11
0.34
< Inhibitors >
0.64
21,402
< Physical Damage >
14,939
78
< Magic Damage >
222
1,231
< True Damage >
4,902
22,711
< Damage Dealt >
20,064
27,893
< Damage Taken >
32,036
12,616
< Gold Earned >
12,470
1.43
< Towers >
2.9
0.1
< Baron Takedowns >
0.03
6,347
< Total Healing >
3,220
14,632
< Experience >
15,668
18
< Vision Score >
17
7
< Wards Placed >
8
191
< Time Dealing CC >
143

How to Counter Garen with Talon in LoL

The stat comparisons shown here show some significant Talon against Garen matchup stats that may help you realize the differences between the two. Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is better than Garen’s KDA ratio of NaN, indicating that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting capacity than Garen..

Talon usually has a slightly larger longest kill spree than his opponent does. Typically, he receives less damage than Garen. This commonly reflects differing health capacities; however, it can also indicate that the champion with higher HP has less mobility and thus is not able to escape additional harm when engaged or poked.

Differences between Talon and Garen

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Garen
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Garen

Who is Better, Talon or Garen?

Both LoL champions are great champions. Both have their strengths, weaknesses, and counters. In the game's current meta, Talon usually fairs equally well when trying to fight Garen, with a 50.5% win rate. Thus, Talon makes an ok counter for Garen.

While Talon does have a higher win rate than Garen, when facing one another, Talon also has a greater level of difficulty that makes him a more challenging character to develop with. You still need to be cautious when picking Talon into Garenas his relative depth means you may not be able to reach his full potential without a significant amount of practice beforehand.

Furthermore, Talon also has only a small amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Garen. This makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when facing champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there isn't a single best champion overall in League of Legends, in Talon vs Garen matchups, Talon is the better champion with a similar win rate, more champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your team members during late stage team fights.

Talon is a decent counter to Garen. You will do well by focussing your actions on increasing your CS and clearing objectives. If you can do that, you should be able to stand on your own as Talon against Garen.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Garen Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Garen as Talon, we analyzed 2,733 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Garen as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To learn all of the intricacies of Talon to counter Garen during both the laning and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to learn a few extra tricks and insights into this matchup. If you pay attention to the build and suggestions presented here, you should increase your win rate significantly and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon typically racks up a similar amount of CS as Garen. Champs who typically don't acquire many minion kills often don't require much CS to be valuable teammates, such as supports. These kinds of champions are able to scale well off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champions with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, typically require several high cost items to be effective. In either case, try to surpass the numbers reported here to do well.

The most crucial items to focus on in your Talon versus Garen build consist of Edge of Night, Axiom Arc, and Profane Hydra. When Talon combined at least these three pieces in his build, he performed much better vs Garen than with most other common item sets. In fact, Talon boasted an average winrate of 50.5% when countering Garen with this build.

To have the highest likelihood of coming out on top against Garen as Talon, you should use the First Strike, Magical Footwear, Minion Dematerializer, Cosmic Insight, Sudden Impact, and Treasure Hunter runes from the Inspiration and Domination rune sets. Out of all the rune sets players used for Talon vs Garen battles, this sequence of runes resulted in the highest win rate. Moreover, these runes averaged a 50.5% winrate overall.

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