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Talon vs Elise

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How to Beat Elise as Talon

based on 662 Talon vs Elise matchups
Win Rate
52.3 %
K/D/A
2.11
Pick Rate
0.8 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We calculate our matchup stats from the millions of ranked LoL matches that we analyze each week. This guide on how to beat Elise as Talon came out of an analysis of 662 ranked games where both champs battled each other. This pairing is relatively rare. Talon fights Elise in only 0.8% of his rounds.

Talon vs Elise Matchup Summary

Talon has done a good job of countering Elise. Normally, he wins a fantastic 52.3% of matches the champions battle each other in. In Talon versus Elise games, Talon’s side is 0.1% less expected to gain first blood, implying that he probably won't get first blood against Elise.

Best Talon vs Elise Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Long SwordRefillable Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Long SwordSerrated Dirk

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Youmuu's GhostbladeEdge of NightOpportunity

Optional Items

HubrisAxiom ArcSerylda's GrudgeProfane Hydra

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

InspirationFirst StrikeMagical FootwearFuture's MarketCosmic Insight
DominationEyeball CollectionTreasure Hunter
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceMagic Resist
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
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W
2
Q
3
W
4
E
5
W
6
R
7
W
8
Q
9
W
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Q
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R
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Q
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Q
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E
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E
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R

Guide to Countering Elise as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Elise

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Elise

Rappel has a long cooldown. Elise is vulnerable after she has used it.

Elise's Spider Form is more dangerous when you are at low health, and her Human Form more potent when you are at high health.

Rappel will only move Elise straight up and down unless she can descend upon an enemy unit.

Talon vs Elise Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
52.3 %
VS
Win Rate
47.7 %
Elise Image
8.5
< Kills >
7.5
7
< Deaths >
6.8
6.3
< Assists >
7.7
1.9
< Killing Sprees >
1.77
136
< Minions Killed >
31
0.51
< Dragons Killed >
1.35
0.33
< Inhibitors >
0.42
21,244
< Physical Damage >
1,273
79
< Magic Damage >
16,412
1,200
< True Damage >
1,461
22,523
< Damage Dealt >
19,147
28,312
< Damage Taken >
30,209
12,876
< Gold Earned >
11,687
1.47
< Towers >
1.41
0.12
< Baron Takedowns >
0.31
6,785
< Total Healing >
13,337
14,828
< Experience >
13,125
19
< Vision Score >
25
6
< Wards Placed >
7
195
< Time Dealing CC >
174

How to Counter Elise with Talon in LoL

The stats provided here show some influential Talon vs. Elise counter statistics that can help us figure out the differences between the pair. As an example, Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is more than Elise’s KDA ratio of NaN, indicating that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting capability than Elise..

Talon often has a similar longest kill spree as his matchup does. On average, he receives a similar amount of damage to Elise. This is usually reflective of differing health capacities; however, it can also hint that the one champ has less agility and thus is not able to escape further harm when engaged or poked.

Differences between Talon and Elise

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Elise
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Elise

Who is Better, Talon or Elise?

Both League of Legends champs are great. Both have their pros and cons. In the game's current meta, Talon usually wins when facing off against Elise, with a 52.3% win rate. Therefore, Talon makes a good counter to Elise.

While Talon does have a higher win rate compared to Elise, when facing one another, Talon also has a lower level of difficulty that makes him a less time consuming champ to pick up and master. You should be be fine when picking Talon into Eliseas his relative depth means you may not be able to reach his full potential without a lot of practice beforehand.

Additionally, Talon also has almost no amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Elise. This makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when fighting champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there isn't a single best champion overall in League of Legends, in Talon vs Elise matchups, Talon is the better champ with a noticably higher win rate, less champion complexity, and a similar amount of utility to help out your teammates during team fights.

Talon is a good counter for Elise. Make sure you focus your strategy on maximizing your gold income and taking out objectives. If you do that, you should hold your own as Talon against Elise.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Elise Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Elise as Talon, we analyzed 662 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Elise as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

If you would like to learn all of the intricacies of Talon in order to counter Elise during both the early game and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to gather a few extra lessons on this matchup. If you listen to the build and suggestions presented here, you will grow your win rate significantly and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon typically picks up much more CS relative to Elise. Champions who typically don't acquire much CS often don't require much CS to be valuable teammates, such as support champions. They are capable of scaling properly off of their abilities and first items alone. Yet, champs with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, usually require a lot of items to be effective. In either situation, try to exceed the numbers shown on this page to do well.

The most important items to use in your Talon versus Elise build include Youmuu's Ghostblade, Edge of Night, and Opportunity. When Talon included at least these three items in his build, he did a lot better versus Elise than with most other commonly used builds. In fact, Talon had an average winrate of 52.3% when countering Elise with this build.

To have the best probability of beating Elise as Talon, you should take the First Strike, Magical Footwear, Future's Market, Cosmic Insight, Eyeball Collection, and Treasure Hunter runes from the Inspiration and Domination rune sets. Of all the rune builds players chose for Talon vs Elise counters, this combination of runes resulted in the greatest win rate. Moreover, these runes gave a 52.3% winrate overall.

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