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How to Win Talon vs Ashe Counter MatchupTalon is in the a tier of champions

Talon vs Ashe

How to Beat Ashe as Talon in LoLTalon is in the b tier of champions
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How to Beat Ashe as Talon

based on 5,282 Talon vs Ashe matchups
Win Rate
50.7 %
K/D/A
2.1
Pick Rate
6.5 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We at MOBA Champion summarize millions of ranked League of Legends games each and every week. In our dataset, Talon faced Ashe in 5282 rounds. Using so many matchups for Talon versus Ashe provides us a lot of confidence in our ability to provide useful statistics and a pro build to shatter Ashe. This particular pairing is somewhat uncommon. Talon has to counter Ashe in only 6.5% of his matches.

Talon vs Ashe Matchup Summary

Talon has done a average job of beating Ashe. On average, he wins a acceptable 50.7% of matches the champions face each other in. In Talon versus Ashe games, Talon’s team is 0.1% less expected to obtain first blood. This implies that he probably won't be able to get first blood against Ashe.

Best Talon vs Ashe Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Doran's BladeHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Long SwordThe Brutalizer

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Youmuu's GhostbladeHubrisProfane Hydra

Optional Items

Axiom ArcSerylda's GrudgeOpportunitySundered Sky

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

InspirationFirst StrikeMagical FootwearMinion DematerializerCosmic Insight
DominationSudden ImpactTreasure Hunter
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceMagic Resist
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
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W
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Q
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W
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W
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Guide to Countering Ashe as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Ashe

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Ashe

Ashe has very few defensive options, and she's a good target to gank.

Be wary of moving around the map alone if Ashe has not recently cast her Enchanted Crystal Arrow.

Talon vs Ashe Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
50.7 %
VS
Win Rate
49.3 %
Ashe Image
8.9
< Kills >
5.5
7.1
< Deaths >
7
6
< Assists >
9.5
2.02
< Killing Sprees >
1.27
135
< Minions Killed >
138
0.44
< Dragons Killed >
0.18
0.36
< Inhibitors >
0.45
21,906
< Physical Damage >
15,100
78
< Magic Damage >
2,602
1,217
< True Damage >
598
23,201
< Damage Dealt >
18,302
28,130
< Damage Taken >
20,310
12,792
< Gold Earned >
11,163
1.45
< Towers >
2
0.1
< Baron Takedowns >
0.05
6,371
< Total Healing >
3,705
14,777
< Experience >
12,341
18
< Vision Score >
31
7
< Wards Placed >
13
188
< Time Dealing CC >
605

How to Counter Ashe with Talon in LoL

The stat comparisons provided here highlight some influential Talon vs. Ashe matchup statistics that can help you grasp the differences and similarities between these two champs. Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is more than Ashe’s KDA ratio of NaN, demonstrating that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting capacity than Ashe. This observation is in large part a result of the difference in kills.

Talon often has a slightly larger longest kill spree than his opponent does. Typically, he receives more damage than Ashe. This often reflects differing health capacities; however, it can also hint that the one champ has less mobility and thus is not able to kite away from further damage when poked or engaged.

Differences between Talon and Ashe

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Ashe
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Ashe

Who is Better, Talon or Ashe?

Both League champs are great champions. Both champs have their strengths, weaknesses, and counters. In the game's current meta, Talon usually fairs equally well when playing against Ashe, with a 50.7% win rate. Thus, Talon makes an ok counter for Ashe.

While Talon does have a higher winrate compared to Ashe, when on opposite teams, Talon also has a much greater level of difficulty that makes him a more difficult champion to learn and master. You still need to be cautious when picking Talon into Asheas his relative depth means you may not be able to unleash his full potential without a lot of practice beforehand.

Moreover, Talon also has only a small amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Ashe. This makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when fighting champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there isn't one best champion for every situation in League of Legends, in Talon vs Ashe matchups, Talon is the better champion with a similar win rate, more champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your allied champions during late stage team fights.

Talon is a decent counter to Ashe. You will do well by focussing your gameplay on increasing your gold income and destroying objectives. If you can do that, you should hold your own as Talon against Ashe.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Ashe Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Ashe as Talon, we analyzed 5,282 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Ashe as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To truly master Talon to counter Ashe during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to pick up a few extra lessons on this matchup. If you pay attention to the build and suggestions shown here, you should grow your win rate by a lot and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon often gets a similar amount of CS as Ashe. Champs who on average don't earn much CS usualy don't have to have much CS to be effective, such as support champions. These kinds of champions are capable of scaling well off of their abilities and first items alone. Yet, champions with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, often need many items to be effective. In either situation, try to do better than the numbers reported on this page to do well.

The best items to use in your Talon versus Ashe build include Youmuu's Ghostblade, Hubris, and Profane Hydra. When Talon used at least these three pieces in his build, he did a lot better countering Ashe than with many other typical builds. In fact, Talon had an average winrate of 50.7% when countering Ashe with these items in his kit.

To have the greatest probability of annihilating Ashe as Talon, you should use the First Strike, Magical Footwear, Minion Dematerializer, Cosmic Insight, Sudden Impact, and Treasure Hunter runes from the Inspiration and Domination rune sets. Of all the rune builds we have analyed for Talon vs Ashe fights, this composite of runes yielded the best win rate. Notably, these runes averaged a 50.7% win rate overall.

If you want to view Talon versus Ashe tips and builds for a a specific player tier, feel free to select one from the selection menu above. At first, the stats and strategies given are calculated using all games finished with these champs.