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How to Win Lucian vs Veigar Counter MatchupLucian is in the a tier of champions

Lucian vs Veigar

How to Beat Veigar as Lucian in LoLLucian is in the b tier of champions
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How to Beat Veigar as Lucian

based on 7,164 Lucian vs Veigar matchups
Win Rate
48.7 %
K/D/A
2.29
Pick Rate
3.1 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We generate our matchup stats from the millions of ranked LoL matches that we evaluate every week. Our guide on how to beat Veigar as Lucian came out of an evaluation of 7164 ranked games where both champions engaged each other. This particular champion pairing is fairly rare. Lucian encounters Veigar in only 3.1% of his rounds.

Lucian vs Veigar Matchup Summary

Unfortunately, Lucian has done a dismal job of beating Veigar. On average, he wins a acceptable 48.7% of the time the champs battle each other in. In Lucian vs Veigar games, Lucian’s team is 0.2% more likely to gain first blood, implying that he most likely will be able to get first blood against Veigar.

Best Lucian vs Veigar Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Doran's BladeHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Kircheis ShardNoonquiver

Core Lucian Items

~22 Mins
BloodthirsterStormrazorNavori Quickblades

Optional Items

Guardian AngelMaw of MalmortiusThe CollectorRapid Firecannon

Summoner Spells

summonerboost summoner spell D
summonerflash summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Lucian to level upq
>
Second ability for Lucian to level upe
>
Last skill for Lucian to max outw

Runes

PrecisionPress the AttackPresence of MindLegend: BloodlineCoup de Grace
InspirationMagical FootwearBiscuit Delivery
Attack SpeedAdaptive ForceArmor
Lucian's passive ability p
Lucian's q ability q
Lucian's w ability w
Lucian's e ability e
Lucian's ultimate ability r
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Q
2
E
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W
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Q
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Q
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R
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Q
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Guide to Countering Veigar as Lucian

Tips for Playing as Lucian against Veigar

For optimal burst, try to combine Relentless Pursuit into Piercing Light.

Ardent Blaze actually explodes in a star pattern. Try to line it up so the spokes hit enemy champions.

Because of Lightslinger, Lucian benefits more from Attack Damage than he does from Attack Speed.

Once you have chosen an angle for The Culling, you cannot change it. Pick your moment well!

Advice to Win Against Veigar

Dark Matter deals very high damage, but it can be avoided. Pay attention to the sound and visual indicator to be aware of when and where the spell will land.

Veigar's ultimate deals increased damage based on your missing health.

Event Horizon only stuns units on the edge. If you're inside the spell, you can still move and attack.

Lucian vs Veigar Counter Stats

Lucian Image
Win Rate
48.7 %
VS
Win Rate
51.3 %
Veigar Image
7.8
< Kills >
7
6.2
< Deaths >
6.1
6.4
< Assists >
6.4
1.81
< Killing Sprees >
1.62
184
< Minions Killed >
171
0.2
< Dragons Killed >
0.11
0.53
< Inhibitors >
0.51
18,495
< Physical Damage >
662
2,492
< Magic Damage >
22,190
524
< True Damage >
581
21,512
< Damage Dealt >
23,433
21,641
< Damage Taken >
18,763
12,570
< Gold Earned >
12,213
2.34
< Towers >
2.08
0.07
< Baron Takedowns >
0.04
5,194
< Total Healing >
1,868
12,993
< Experience >
14,561
19
< Vision Score >
21
9
< Wards Placed >
11
40
< Time Dealing CC >
89

How to Counter Veigar with Lucian in LoL

The stats shown on this page underscore several significant Lucian vs. Veigar matchup stats that may help you interpret the distinctions between the pair. For instance, Lucian’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is more than Veigar’s ratio of NaN, demonstrating that Lucian may be more central to his team's team fighting effectiveness than Veigar..

Lucian typically has a similar longest kill spree as his enemy does. On average, he takes a similar amount of damage to Veigar. This typically indicates differing health capacities; however, it can also show that the one champ has less mobility and thus is not able to flee from additional damage when engaged or poked.

Differences between Lucian and Veigar

Damage Types Compared

Lucian
Veigar
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Lucian
Veigar

Who is Better, Lucian or Veigar?

Both LoL champions are great champions. Both have their pros and cons. In the game's current meta, Lucian usually loses when trying to fight Veigar, with a 48.7% win rate. As a result, Lucian makes a bad counter to Veigar.

While Lucian does have a lower winrate than Veigar, when on opposite teams, Lucian also has a lower level of difficulty that makes him a less complex champ to develop with. You still need to be cautious when picking Lucian into Veigar.

Moreover, Lucian has almost no amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Veigar. This often makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when facing champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there isn't a single best champion for every situation in League of Legends, in Lucian vs Veigar matchups, Veigar is the better champ with a lower win rate, less champion complexity, and a similar amount of utility to help out your allied champions during teamfights.

Lucian is a somewhat poor counter for Veigar. You will do well by focussing your strategy on increasing your gold and cs and clearing objectives. If you are able to do that, you should do very well as Lucian against Veigar.

Additional Information for Lucian Players

How We Calculated Our Lucian vs Veigar Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Veigar as Lucian, we analyzed 7,164 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Veigar as Lucian comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To truly master Lucian to counter Veigar during both the early game and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to gather a few extra tips and tricks for this matchup. If you mind the build and suggestions presented here, you will increase your win rate by a lot and be closer to League of Legends pro players.

Lucian usually accumulates a similar amount of CS compared to Veigar. Champions who on average don't earn many minion kills often don't require much CS to be effective, such as sup champs. They are capable of scaling properly off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champions with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, typically require many items to be effective. In either case, try to surpass the values reported on this page to do well.

The most crucial items to use in your Lucian versus Veigar build consist of Bloodthirster, Stormrazor, and Navori Quickblades. When Lucian included at least these three pieces in his build, he performed a lot better countering Veigar than with many other commonly used builds. In fact, Lucian boasted an average win rate of 48.7% battling Veigar with this counter build.

To have the greatest chance of crushing Veigar as Lucian, Lucian players should take the Press the Attack, Presence of Mind, Legend: Bloodline, Coup de Grace, Magical Footwear, and Biscuit Delivery runes from the Precision and Inspiration rune sets. Of all the rune combinations players picked for Lucian vs Veigar fights, this order of runes resulted in the highest win rate. Moreover, these runes provided a 48.7% winrate overall.

By default, tips, stats, and builds on how to beat Veigar as Lucian are presented for every ranked division. If you want to scope the stats and builds to a specific skill level, you may use the selection menu located earlier in the counter matchup guide.