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Lucian vs Talon

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How to Beat Talon as Lucian

based on 5,351 Lucian vs Talon matchups
Win Rate
50.5 %
K/D/A
2.18
Pick Rate
2.3 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We summarize our counter stats from the millions of rated League of Legends games that we evaluate each week. This guide on how to beat Talon as Lucian came out of an analysis of 5351 ranked games where both champs faced off against each other. This particular champion pairing is somewhat rare. Lucian is forced to battle against Talon in only 2.3% of his matches.

Lucian vs Talon Matchup Summary

Lucian does a average job of beating Talon. Typically, he wins a acceptable 50.5% of matches the champs face each other in. In Lucian versus Talon matches, Lucian’s team is 0.1% more expected to get first blood. This implies that he probably will get first blood against Talon.

Best Lucian vs Talon Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Doran's BladeHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Cloak of AgilityLong Sword

Core Lucian Items

~22 Mins
Rapid FirecannonImmortal ShieldbowNavori Quickblades

Optional Items

BloodthirsterInfinity EdgeGuardian AngelLord Dominik's Regards

Summoner Spells

summonerexhaust summoner spell D
summonerflash summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Lucian to level upq
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Second ability for Lucian to level upe
>
Last skill for Lucian to max outw

Runes

PrecisionPress the AttackPresence of MindLegend: BloodlineCoup de Grace
InspirationMagical FootwearBiscuit Delivery
Attack SpeedAdaptive ForceArmor
Lucian's passive ability p
Lucian's q ability q
Lucian's w ability w
Lucian's e ability e
Lucian's ultimate ability r
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Q
2
E
3
W
4
Q
5
Q
6
R
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Q
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E
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Guide to Countering Talon as Lucian

Tips for Playing as Lucian against Talon

For optimal burst, try to combine Relentless Pursuit into Piercing Light.

Ardent Blaze actually explodes in a star pattern. Try to line it up so the spokes hit enemy champions.

Because of Lightslinger, Lucian benefits more from Attack Damage than he does from Attack Speed.

Once you have chosen an angle for The Culling, you cannot change it. Pick your moment well!

Advice to Win Against Talon

Talon is heavily reliant on Shadow Assault to escape a fight. When it is down he's significantly more vulnerable.

Talon has unrivaled roaming ability. Make sure to keep track of his position or force him to stay in lane by pushing aggressively.

Talon's attacks are all physical damage. Build armor early to counter his burst damage.

Lucian vs Talon Counter Stats

Lucian Image
Win Rate
50.5 %
VS
Win Rate
49.5 %
Talon Image
7.9
< Kills >
8.9
6.7
< Deaths >
6.9
6.7
< Assists >
6.1
1.85
< Killing Sprees >
2.02
189
< Minions Killed >
140
0.19
< Dragons Killed >
0.44
0.51
< Inhibitors >
0.33
19,294
< Physical Damage >
22,352
2,792
< Magic Damage >
81
549
< True Damage >
1,221
22,636
< Damage Dealt >
23,655
22,000
< Damage Taken >
28,170
12,706
< Gold Earned >
12,945
2.3
< Towers >
1.42
0.07
< Baron Takedowns >
0.11
5,013
< Total Healing >
6,534
12,988
< Experience >
14,895
19
< Vision Score >
18
9
< Wards Placed >
6
41
< Time Dealing CC >
190

How to Counter Talon with Lucian in LoL

The stat comparisons provided here show several strategic Lucian versus Talon matchup statistics that may help us realize the differences and similarities between the two. Lucian’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is more than Talon’s ratio of NaN, demonstrating that Lucian may be more central to his team's team fighting capacity than Talon..

Lucian usually has a similar longest killing spree as his foe does. Typically, he receives less damage than Talon. This often reflects differing health capacities; however, it can also hint that the one champion has less mobility and thus is unable to escape further damage when poked or engaged.

Differences between Lucian and Talon

Damage Types Compared

Lucian
Talon
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Lucian
Talon

Who is Better, Lucian or Talon?

Both League of Legends champs are great. Both champs have their pros and cons. In League's current meta, Lucian usually fairs equally well when playing against Talon, with a 50.5% win rate. Thus, Lucian makes an ok counter for Talon.

While Lucian does have a higher win rate than Talon, when they face off with one another, Lucian also has a lower difficulty level that makes him a less time consuming champion to learn. You still need to be cautious when picking Lucian into Talon.

Furthermore, Lucian has only a small amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Talon. This often makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when fighting champions with a ton of burst damage.

While there is not one best champion overall in League of Legends, in Lucian vs Talon matchups, Lucian is the better champion with a similar win rate, less champion complexity, and a similar amount of utility to help out your team members during team fights.

Lucian is a decent counter to Talon. Focus your tactics on keeping up your gold and cs and destroying objectives. If you can do that, you should hold your own as Lucian against Talon.

Additional Information for Lucian Players

How We Calculated Our Lucian vs Talon Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Talon as Lucian, we analyzed 5,351 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Talon as Lucian comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

If you would like to truly master Lucian to counter Talon during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to pick up a few extra tricks and insights into this matchup. If you pay attention to the build and stats presented here, you should grow your win rate significantly and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Lucian most often accumulates a similar amount of CS compared to Talon. Champs who on average don't take many minion kills usualy don't need much CS to be valuable teammates, such as support champions. They are capable of scaling properly off of their abilities and first items alone. Yet, champions with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, usually need many items to be effective. In either case, try to do better than the values displayed on this page to do well.

The ideal items to have in your Lucian versus Talon build include Rapid Firecannon, Immortal Shieldbow, and Navori Quickblades. When Lucian used at least these three items in his build, he performed a lot better vs Talon than with many other typical counter builds. In fact, Lucian had an average win rate of 50.5% when countering Talon with this counter build.

To have the best chance of beating Talon as Lucian, you should take the Press the Attack, Presence of Mind, Legend: Bloodline, Coup de Grace, Biscuit Delivery, and Magical Footwear runes from the Precision and Inspiration rune sets. Out of all the rune sets players chose for Lucian vs Talon matchups, this blending of runes yielded the highest win rate. Moreover, these runes gave a 50.5% winrate overall.

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