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How to Win Karma vs Lucian Counter MatchupKarma is in the b tier of champions

Karma vs Lucian

How to Beat Lucian as Karma in LoLKarma is in the a tier of champions
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How to Beat Lucian as Karma

based on 6,309 Karma vs Lucian matchups
Win Rate
49.5 %
K/D/A
2.68
Pick Rate
6.2 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We produce our counter statistics from the millions of recently ranked League games that we get from Riot Games every week. Our guide on how to beat Lucian as Karma came out of an evaluation of 6309 ranked matches where both champions faced off against each other. This particular pairing is relatively uncommon. Karma has to counter Lucian in only 6.2% of her matches.

Karma vs Lucian Matchup Summary

Karma does a ok job of countering Lucian. On average, she wins a acceptable 49.5% of matches the champions fight each other in. In Karma vs Lucian rounds, Karma’s team is 0.1% less likely to get first blood. This indicates that she most likely won't get first blood versus Lucian.

Best Karma vs Lucian Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Health PotionWorld Atlas

Early Items

~5 Mins
BootsLost Chapter

Core Karma Items

~22 Mins
MorellonomiconImperial MandateStaff of Flowing Water

Optional Items

CryptbloomShadowflameCosmic DriveLiandry's Torment

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Karma to level upq
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Second ability for Karma to level upe
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Last skill for Karma to max outw

Runes

SorceryArcane CometManaflow BandTranscendenceScorch
DominationCheap ShotUltimate Hunter
Ability HasteAdaptive ForceHealth Scaling
Karma's passive ability p
Karma's q ability q
Karma's w ability w
Karma's e ability e
Karma's ultimate ability r
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Q
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E
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W
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Q
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Q
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R
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Q
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Guide to Countering Lucian as Karma

Tips for Playing as Karma against Lucian

Don't be too conservative with Mantra. Gathering Fire is strongest in teamfights, making it easy to recharge Mantra multiple times.

Gathering Fire rewards aggressive play. Look to land abilities and basic attacks on your opponent to lower Mantra's cooldown and stay on the offensive.

When using Focused Resolve, slow your opponents with Inner Flame or speed yourself up with Inspire if you're having trouble sticking to a target.

Advice to Win Against Lucian

Lucian cannot change the aim of The Culling. Take advantage of this by avoiding the angle of the bullets.

Lucian has strong burst, but little sustained damage.

Piercing Light does not give Lucian extra Attack Range. He still needs to find a target in range to line up his shot. Avoid Piercing Light by anticipating the angle Lucian will choose.

Karma vs Lucian Counter Stats

Karma Image
Win Rate
49.5 %
VS
Win Rate
50.5 %
Lucian Image
2.9
< Kills >
7.4
5.6
< Deaths >
6.1
12.1
< Assists >
6.3
0.62
< Killing Sprees >
1.73
66
< Minions Killed >
186
0.05
< Dragons Killed >
0.18
0.52
< Inhibitors >
0.5
991
< Physical Damage >
18,543
13,723
< Magic Damage >
2,695
751
< True Damage >
553
15,466
< Damage Dealt >
21,791
18,688
< Damage Taken >
21,434
9,207
< Gold Earned >
12,387
2.04
< Towers >
2.33
0.02
< Baron Takedowns >
0.06
2,763
< Total Healing >
5,070
11,427
< Experience >
12,705
52
< Vision Score >
19
23
< Wards Placed >
9
236
< Time Dealing CC >
43

How to Counter Lucian with Karma in LoL

The stat comparisons shown here highlight several critical Karma versus Lucian matchup stats that may help us explain the distinctions between the pair. For instance, Karma’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is greater than Lucian’s KDA ratio of NaN, indicating that Karma may be more central to her team's team fighting capability than Lucian. This observation is in large part fueled by the differences in assists.

Karma usually has a significantly smaller longest killing spree than her enemy does. On average, she takes a similar amount of damage to Lucian. This is usually reflective of differing health capacities, yet it can also hint that the one champ has less mobility and thus is unable to flee from additional harm when poked or engaged.

Differences between Karma and Lucian

Damage Types Compared

Karma
Lucian
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Karma
Lucian

Who is Better, Karma or Lucian?

Both League of Legends champs are great champions. Both champs have their strengths, weaknesses, and counters. In League's current meta, Karma usually fairs equally well when facing off against Lucian, with a 49.5% win rate. Therefore, Karma makes an ok counter for Lucian.

While Karma does have a lower winrate than Lucian, when they face off with one another, Karma also has a lower difficulty level that makes her a less complex champ to learn and master. You still need to be cautious when picking Karma into Lucian.

Additionally, Karma has a good amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Lucian. This often makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when facing champions with a ton of burst damage.

While there is not one best champion overall in League of Legends, in Karma vs Lucian matchups, Lucian is the better champion with a similar win rate, less champion complexity, and a similar amount of utility to help out your team members during teamfights.

Karma is a somewhat poor counter to Lucian. Focus your strategy on maximizing your gold and cs and clearing objectives. If you can do that, you should hold your own as Karma against Lucian.

Additional Information for Karma Players

How We Calculated Our Karma vs Lucian Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Lucian as Karma, we analyzed 6,309 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Lucian as Karma comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To learn all of the intricacies of Karma to counter Lucian during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to learn a few extra tricks and insights into this matchup. If you listen to the build and suggestions displayed above, you will increase your win rate by a lot and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Karma on average gets less CS compared to Lucian. Champions who on average don't get much CS usualy don't need much CS to be valuable teammates, such as support champions. They are able to scale well off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champions with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, often have to have a lot of items to be effective. In either case, try to surpass the numbers reported here to do well.

The ideal items to have in your Karma versus Lucian build include Morellonomicon, Imperial Mandate, and Staff of Flowing Water. When Karma incorporated at least these three pieces in her build, she did much better against Lucian than with most other typical builds. In fact, Karma boasted an average win rate of 49.5% when playing against Lucian with this counter build.

To have the highest chance of beating Lucian as Karma, Karma players should use the Arcane Comet, Manaflow Band, Transcendence, Scorch, Cheap Shot, and Ultimate Hunter runes from the Sorcery and Domination rune sets. Out of all the runes players chose for Karma vs Lucian matchups, this sequence of runes resulted in the best win rate. Moreover, these runes gave a 49.5% winrate overall.

By default, tips, statistics, and builds on how to beat Lucian as Karma are displayed for all skill levels combined. If you want to filter the statistics and builds to an individual player tier, you should use the selection menu located earlier in the counter matchup guide.