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How to Win Karma vs Graves Counter MatchupKarma is in the b tier of champions

Karma vs Graves

How to Beat Graves as Karma in LoLKarma is in the a tier of champions
MageSupport
Marksman

How to Beat Graves as Karma

based on 4,866 Karma vs Graves matchups
Win Rate
48.2 %
K/D/A
2.75
Pick Rate
4.8 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We get our counter stats from the millions of recently rated League of Legends rounds that we get from Riot Games each and every week. This guide on how to beat Graves as Karma came out of an examination of 4866 ranked matches where both champions battled each other. This particular pairing is relatively uncommon. Karma has to counter Graves in only 4.8% of her matches.

Karma vs Graves Matchup Summary

Unfortunately, Karma does a poor job of beating Graves. On average, she wins a lowly 48.2% of games the champs battle each other in. In Karma vs Graves rounds, Karma’s team is 0.0% more probable to get first blood. This indicates that she probably will be able to get first blood against Graves.

Best Karma vs Graves Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Health PotionWorld Atlas

Early Items

~5 Mins
Amplifying TomeFiendish Codex

Core Karma Items

~22 Mins
Zaz'Zak's RealmspikeStormsurgeLuden's Companion

Optional Items

RedemptionCosmic DriveEchoes of HeliaArdent Censer

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Karma to level upq
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Second ability for Karma to level upe
>
Last skill for Karma to max outw

Runes

SorcerySummon AeryManaflow BandTranscendenceScorch
ResolveBone PlatingRevitalize
Ability HasteAdaptive ForceHealth Scaling
Karma's passive ability p
Karma's q ability q
Karma's w ability w
Karma's e ability e
Karma's ultimate ability r
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Q
2
E
3
W
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Q
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Q
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R
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Q
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Guide to Countering Graves as Karma

Tips for Playing as Karma against Graves

Don't be too conservative with Mantra. Gathering Fire is strongest in teamfights, making it easy to recharge Mantra multiple times.

Gathering Fire rewards aggressive play. Look to land abilities and basic attacks on your opponent to lower Mantra's cooldown and stay on the offensive.

When using Focused Resolve, slow your opponents with Inner Flame or speed yourself up with Inspire if you're having trouble sticking to a target.

Advice to Win Against Graves

Leaving the Smoke Screen's area of effect removes the harmful effect immediately.

Graves deals mostly physical damage so Armor is an effective counter.

Karma vs Graves Counter Stats

Karma Image
Win Rate
48.2 %
VS
Win Rate
51.8 %
Graves Image
2.9
< Kills >
7.2
5.3
< Deaths >
5.6
11.7
< Assists >
6.7
0.62
< Killing Sprees >
1.62
67
< Minions Killed >
53
0.05
< Dragons Killed >
1.54
0.49
< Inhibitors >
0.48
968
< Physical Damage >
17,530
13,962
< Magic Damage >
802
694
< True Damage >
1,559
15,624
< Damage Dealt >
19,892
18,644
< Damage Taken >
29,733
9,166
< Gold Earned >
12,711
1.97
< Towers >
1.72
0.01
< Baron Takedowns >
0.38
2,837
< Total Healing >
14,121
11,394
< Experience >
14,369
51
< Vision Score >
23
22
< Wards Placed >
6
233
< Time Dealing CC >
489

How to Counter Graves with Karma in LoL

The stats shown on this page feature several critical Karma against Graves counter stats that can help you figure out the differences and similarities between the two. As an example, Karma’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is greater than Graves’s KDA ratio of NaN, demonstrating that Karma may be more central to her team's team fighting potential than Graves. This observation is largely caused by the differences in assists.

Karma often has a significantly smaller longest killing spree than her opponent does. Commonly, she takes less damage than Graves. This typically indicates different amounts of tankyness, yet it can also hint that the champ with more health has less mobility and thus is not able to kite away from additional damage when engaged or poked.

Differences between Karma and Graves

Damage Types Compared

Karma
Graves
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Karma
Graves

Who is Better, Karma or Graves?

Both League champs are great. Both champs have their strengths, weaknesses, and counters. In League's current meta, Karma usually loses when facing off against Graves, with a 48.2% win rate. Thus, Karma makes a bad counter to Graves.

While Karma does have a lower winrate than Graves, when they face off with one another, Karma also has a greater level of difficulty that makes her a more complex character to learn. You should be careful when picking Karma into Graves.

Furthermore, Karma also has a good amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Graves. This often makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when facing champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there isn't a single best champion overall in League of Legends, in Karma vs Graves matchups, Graves is the better champion with a lower win rate, more champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your team members during late stage team fights.

Karma is a somewhat poor counter to Graves. You will do well by focussing your gameplay on increasing your gold income and taking out objectives. If you do that, you should hold your own as Karma against Graves.

Additional Information for Karma Players

How We Calculated Our Karma vs Graves Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Graves as Karma, we analyzed 4,866 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Graves as Karma comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

If you would like to learn all of the intricacies of Karma to counter Graves during both the laning and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to gather a few extra lessons on this matchup. If you listen to the build and suggestions displayed above, you will grow your win rate significantly and be closer to League of Legends pro players.

Karma typically picks up a similar amount of CS as Graves. Champs who typically don't get much CS typically don't need much CS to be valuable teammates, such as sup champs. These kinds of champions are capable of scaling properly off of their abilities and first items alone. Yet, champs with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, typically have to have a lot of items to be effective. In either case, try to surpass the numbers shown here to do well.

The most important items to have in your Karma versus Graves build include Zaz'Zak's Realmspike, Stormsurge, and Luden's Companion. When Karma bought at least these three pieces in her build, she did significantly better vs Graves than with most other common builds. In fact, Karma boasted an average win rate of 48.2% when countering Graves with this counter build.

To have the best probability of coming out on top against Graves as Karma, Karma players should take the Summon Aery, Manaflow Band, Transcendence, Scorch, Bone Plating, and Revitalize runes from the Sorcery and Resolve rune sets. Out of all the rune combinations players chose for Karma vs Graves matchups, this blending of runes yielded the highest win rate. In fact, these runes gave a 48.2% winrate overall.

By default, tips, stats, and builds on how to beat Graves as Karma are shown for all skill levels, merged. To narrow the stats and builds to a distinct player tier, you can use the selection menu located earlier in the counter matchup guide.