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How to Win Graves vs Veigar Counter MatchupGraves is in the a tier of champions

Graves vs Veigar

How to Beat Veigar as Graves in LoLGraves is in the b tier of champions
Marksman
Mage

How to Beat Veigar as Graves

based on 5,071 Graves vs Veigar matchups
Win Rate
51.5 %
K/D/A
2.47
Pick Rate
3 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We calculate our counter stats from the millions of recently ranked LoL matches that we evaluate each and every week. Our guide on how to beat Veigar as Graves came out of an analysis of 5071 ranked rounds where both champs fought each other. This particular counter pairing is somewhat rare. Graves is forced to battle against Veigar in only 3.0% of his rounds.

Graves vs Veigar Matchup Summary

Graves has done a decent job of countering Veigar. On average, he wins a acceptable 51.5% of games the champions face off with one another in. In Graves against Veigar rounds, Graves’s team is 0.1% more probable to earn first blood. This indicates that he most likely will be able to get first blood against Veigar.

Best Graves vs Veigar Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Gustwalker HatchlingHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
BootsRectrix

Core Graves Items

~22 Mins
Youmuu's GhostbladeEdge of NightThe Collector

Optional Items

OpportunityInfinity EdgeGuardian AngelBloodthirster

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonersmite summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Graves to level upq
>
Second ability for Graves to level upe
>
Last skill for Graves to max outw

Runes

PrecisionFleet FootworkTriumphLegend: AlacrityCoup de Grace
InspirationMagical FootwearCosmic Insight
Attack SpeedAdaptive ForceHealth Scaling
Graves's passive ability p
Graves's q ability q
Graves's w ability w
Graves's e ability e
Graves's ultimate ability r
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E
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Q
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Q
4
W
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Q
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R
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Q
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Guide to Countering Veigar as Graves

Tips for Playing as Graves against Veigar

Smoke Screen can be used both to escape and to set up a kill.

Using Quickdraw to get into range and delivering a point blank Buckshot can do lots of damage.

Advice to Win Against Veigar

Dark Matter deals very high damage, but it can be avoided. Pay attention to the sound and visual indicator to be aware of when and where the spell will land.

Veigar's ultimate deals increased damage based on your missing health.

Event Horizon only stuns units on the edge. If you're inside the spell, you can still move and attack.

Graves vs Veigar Counter Stats

Graves Image
Win Rate
51.5 %
VS
Win Rate
48.5 %
Veigar Image
7.2
< Kills >
6.9
5.7
< Deaths >
6
6.9
< Assists >
6
1.66
< Killing Sprees >
1.57
55
< Minions Killed >
173
1.63
< Dragons Killed >
0.12
0.5
< Inhibitors >
0.5
17,179
< Physical Damage >
649
866
< Magic Damage >
21,841
1,612
< True Damage >
532
19,658
< Damage Dealt >
23,024
30,502
< Damage Taken >
19,122
12,861
< Gold Earned >
12,164
1.72
< Towers >
2.06
0.37
< Baron Takedowns >
0.04
14,254
< Total Healing >
1,995
14,730
< Experience >
14,550
24
< Vision Score >
21
6
< Wards Placed >
11
496
< Time Dealing CC >
87

How to Counter Veigar with Graves in LoL

The stat comparisons shown on this page emphasize some valuable Graves against Veigar matchup statistics that can help us understand the distinctions between the pair. Graves’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is more than Veigar’s KDA ratio of NaN, highlighting that Graves may be more central to his team's team fighting capability than Veigar..

Graves often has a similar longest killing spree as his enemy does. On average, he takes more damage than Veigar. This is usually reflective of different amounts of tankyness, yet it can also indicate that the champ with higher health has less mobility and thus is not able to kite away from additional harm when engaged or poked.

Differences between Graves and Veigar

Damage Types Compared

Graves
Veigar
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Graves
Veigar

Who is Better, Graves or Veigar?

Both League of Legends champions are great champions. Both have their pros and cons. In the game's current meta, Graves usually wins when trying to fight Veigar, with a 51.5% win rate. Thus, Graves makes a good counter for Veigar.

While Graves does have a higher winrate than Veigar, when they face off with one another, Graves also has a much lower difficulty level that makes him a less challenging champ to pick up and master. You still need to be cautious when picking Graves into Veigar.

Moreover, Graves has only a small amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Veigar. This makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when trying to counter champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there is not one best champion in League of Legends, in Graves vs Veigar matchups, Graves is the better champion with a higher win rate, less champion complexity, and a similar amount of utility to help out your allied champions during teamfights.

Graves is a decent counter for Veigar. Focus your tactics on maximizing your CS and taking out objectives. If you can do that, you should be able to stand on your own as Graves against Veigar.

Other Champion Matchups Against Graves

Graves Loses Against

ZyraZyra46.8% winrateBardBard47.1% winrateNaafiriNaafiri47.2% winrateTahm KenchTahm Kench47.3% winrate

Graves Wins Against

NidaleeNidalee55.6% winrateLeBlancLeBlanc55.2% winrateXayahXayah55% winrateKai'SaKai'Sa54.7% winrate

Top Synergies by Role

TeemoTeemo+ 54.2% 11371 GamesZyraZyra+ 54.3% 6861 GamesMaokaiMaokai+ 54.6% 6548 GamesLilliaLillia+ 55.7% 1241 Games

Additional Information for Graves Players

How We Calculated Our Graves vs Veigar Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Veigar as Graves, we analyzed 5,071 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Veigar as Graves comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

Other Useful Resources

Graves Build Veigar Build

Further Insights to Win this Matchup

If you would like to learn all of the intricacies of Graves to counter Veigar during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to learn a few extra lessons on this matchup. If you pay attention to the build and suggestions displayed above, you should increase your win rate by a lot and be closer to League of Legends pro players.

Graves usually gets a lot less CS relative to Veigar. Champions who typically don't get many minion kills usualy don't have to have much CS to be valuable teammates, such as support champions. They are capable of scaling properly off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champs with large amounts of CS, such as hyper-carries, often require a lot of items to be effective. In either situation, try to surpass the values reported on this page to do well.

The top items to focus on in your Graves versus Veigar build consist of Youmuu's Ghostblade, Edge of Night, and The Collector. When Graves incorporated at least these three pieces in his build, he did a lot better when facing Veigar than with most other commonly used item sets. In fact, Graves had an average win rate of 51.5% battling Veigar with these items in his kit.

To have the highest likelihood of beating Veigar as Graves, you should equip the Fleet Footwork, Triumph, Legend: Alacrity, Coup de Grace, Magical Footwear, and Cosmic Insight runes from the Precision and Inspiration rune sets. Of all the rune combinations players picked for Graves vs Veigar LoL games, this blending of runes resulted in the best win rate. Moreover, these runes averaged a 51.5% winrate overall.

If you want to see Graves x Veigar tips and builds for a a particular player tier, feel free to select one from the selection menu above. At first, the stats and guides given are computed using all games with data with these champions.