Background Image
How to Win Graves vs Thresh Counter MatchupGraves is in the a tier of champions

Graves vs Thresh

How to Beat Thresh as Graves in LoLGraves is in the a tier of champions
Marksman
SupportFighter

How to Beat Thresh as Graves

based on 6,920 Graves vs Thresh matchups
Win Rate
51.1 %
K/D/A
2.48
Pick Rate
4.1 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We summarize our matchup statistics from the millions of recently ranked League games that we evaluate each week. This guide on how to beat Thresh as Graves came out of an analysis of 6920 ranked matches where both champs battled each other. This counter pairing is relatively uncommon. Graves has to counter Thresh in only 4.1% of his games.

Graves vs Thresh Matchup Summary

Graves does a decent job of beating Thresh. Normally, he wins a acceptable 51.1% of matches the champions clash against one another in. In Graves versus Thresh matches, Graves’s team is 0.1% less expected to gain first blood. This implies that he probably won't get first blood against Thresh.

Best Graves vs Thresh Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Mosstomper SeedlingHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
BootsRectrix

Core Graves Items

~22 Mins
Youmuu's GhostbladeThe CollectorHubris

Optional Items

Guardian AngelOpportunityLord Dominik's RegardsBloodthirster

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonersmite summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Graves to level upq
>
Second ability for Graves to level upe
>
Last skill for Graves to max outw

Runes

PrecisionFleet FootworkTriumphLegend: AlacrityCoup de Grace
InspirationMagical FootwearCosmic Insight
Attack SpeedAdaptive ForceHealth Scaling
Graves's passive ability p
Graves's q ability q
Graves's w ability w
Graves's e ability e
Graves's ultimate ability r
1
E
2
Q
3
Q
4
W
5
Q
6
R
7
Q
8
E
9
Q
10
E
11
R
12
E
13
E
14
W
15
W
16
R

Guide to Countering Thresh as Graves

Tips for Playing as Graves against Thresh

Smoke Screen can be used both to escape and to set up a kill.

Using Quickdraw to get into range and delivering a point blank Buckshot can do lots of damage.

Advice to Win Against Thresh

Intentionally breaking a wall of The Box can allow a vulnerable ally to escape unscathed.

Thresh's Death Sentence has a long cast time. Watch for the cast to begin to take evasive actions.

Thresh relies on collecting souls for a portion of his defense and damage. Try punishing him when he moves to collect them.

Graves vs Thresh Counter Stats

Graves Image
Win Rate
51.1 %
VS
Win Rate
48.9 %
Thresh Image
7.1
< Kills >
2.1
5.8
< Deaths >
6
7.3
< Assists >
14
1.65
< Killing Sprees >
0.37
53
< Minions Killed >
34
1.53
< Dragons Killed >
0.04
0.49
< Inhibitors >
0.48
17,272
< Physical Damage >
1,166
842
< Magic Damage >
6,995
1,696
< True Damage >
767
19,811
< Damage Dealt >
8,928
29,154
< Damage Taken >
21,555
12,736
< Gold Earned >
8,531
1.79
< Towers >
1.8
0.37
< Baron Takedowns >
0.01
13,579
< Total Healing >
2,421
14,329
< Experience >
10,481
23
< Vision Score >
57
6
< Wards Placed >
24
496
< Time Dealing CC >
255

How to Counter Thresh with Graves in LoL

The stats shown on this page highlight some significant Graves against Thresh matchup stats that can help us interpret the differences and similarities between the pair. As an example, Graves’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is better than Thresh’s KDA ratio of NaN, indicating that Graves may be more central to his team's team fighting effectiveness than Thresh. This observation is in large part caused by the difference in kills.

Graves typically has a much larger longest kill spree than his opponent does. Typically, he takes more damage than Thresh. This is usually reflective of differing health capacities, yet it can also indicate that the one champ has less mobility and thus is not able to escape additional harm when engaged or poked.

Differences between Graves and Thresh

Damage Types Compared

Graves
Thresh
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Graves
Thresh

Who is Better, Graves or Thresh?

Both LoL champs are great. Both champs have their pros and cons. In League's current meta, Graves usually wins when trying to fight Thresh, with a 51.1% win rate. As a result, Graves makes a good counter to Thresh.

While Graves does have a higher win rate compared to Thresh, when on opposite teams, Graves also has a much lower learning curve that makes him a less complex champ to develop with. You should be careful when picking Graves into Thresh.

Moreover, Graves has only a small amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Thresh. This makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when facing champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there isn't one best champion overall in League of Legends, in Graves vs Thresh matchups, Graves is the better champ with a higher win rate, less champion complexity, and a similar amount of utility to help out your allied champions during late stage team fights.

Graves is a decent counter for Thresh. Make sure you focus your actions on increasing your gold income and destroying objectives. If you are able to do that, you should be able to stand on your own as Graves against Thresh.

Additional Information for Graves Players

How We Calculated Our Graves vs Thresh Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Thresh as Graves, we analyzed 6,920 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Thresh as Graves comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

Other Useful Resources

Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To truly master Graves to counter Thresh during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to pick up a few extra tricks and insights into this matchup. If you mind the build and suggestions displayed above, you will increase your win rate by a lot and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Graves usually gets more CS as Thresh. Champs who on average don't earn many minion kills often don't need much CS to be effective, such as sup champs. They are capable of scaling well off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champions with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, often need a lot of items to be effective. In either situation, try to exceed the values displayed here to do well.

The most important items to have in your Graves versus Thresh build consist of Youmuu's Ghostblade, The Collector, and Hubris. When Graves combined at least these three items in his build, he did a lot better versus Thresh than with many other typical item sets. In fact, Graves had an average winrate of 51.1% battling Thresh with this counter build.

To have the best likelihood of coming out on top against Thresh as Graves, you should take the Fleet Footwork, Triumph, Legend: Alacrity, Coup de Grace, Magical Footwear, and Cosmic Insight runes from the Precision and Inspiration rune sets. Of all the rune combinations we have analyed for Graves vs Thresh battles, this mixture of runes yielded the greatest win rate. Notably, these runes provided a 51.1% win rate overall.

If you want to see Graves vs Thresh tips and counter builds for a a particular division rank, feel free to select one from the selection menu provided above. At first, the statistics and guides displayed are computed using all rounds completed with both champs.