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Graves vs Lucian

How to Beat Lucian as Graves in LoLGraves is in the a tier of champions
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How to Beat Lucian as Graves

based on 11,114 Graves vs Lucian matchups
Win Rate
52 %
K/D/A
2.51
Pick Rate
6.6 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We calculate our counter statistics from the millions of ranked League of Legends games that we evaluate each and every week. This guide on how to beat Lucian as Graves came out of an evaluation of 11114 ranked matches where both champs opposed one another. This counter matchup is relatively uncommon. Graves is forced to battle against Lucian in only 6.6% of his matches.

Graves vs Lucian Matchup Summary

Graves does a good job of beating Lucian. Typically, he wins a terrific 52.0% of the time the champions battle one another in. In Graves versus Lucian games, Graves’s side is 0.1% less probable to get first blood, implying that he probably won't get first blood against Lucian.

Best Graves vs Lucian Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Scorchclaw PupHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Long SwordYoumuu's Ghostblade

Core Graves Items

~22 Mins
Youmuu's GhostbladeVoltaic CycloswordOpportunity

Optional Items

Guardian AngelBloodthirsterEdge of NightImmortal Shieldbow

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonersmite summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Graves to level upq
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Second ability for Graves to level upe
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Last skill for Graves to max outw

Runes

PrecisionFleet FootworkTriumphLegend: AlacrityCoup de Grace
DominationSudden ImpactTreasure Hunter
Attack SpeedAdaptive ForceHealth Scaling
Graves's passive ability p
Graves's q ability q
Graves's w ability w
Graves's e ability e
Graves's ultimate ability r
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Q
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Guide to Countering Lucian as Graves

Tips for Playing as Graves against Lucian

Smoke Screen can be used both to escape and to set up a kill.

Using Quickdraw to get into range and delivering a point blank Buckshot can do lots of damage.

Advice to Win Against Lucian

Lucian cannot change the aim of The Culling. Take advantage of this by avoiding the angle of the bullets.

Lucian has strong burst, but little sustained damage.

Piercing Light does not give Lucian extra Attack Range. He still needs to find a target in range to line up his shot. Avoid Piercing Light by anticipating the angle Lucian will choose.

Graves vs Lucian Counter Stats

Graves Image
Win Rate
52 %
VS
Win Rate
48 %
Lucian Image
7.3
< Kills >
7.5
5.7
< Deaths >
6.1
7
< Assists >
6.3
1.68
< Killing Sprees >
1.75
54
< Minions Killed >
188
1.52
< Dragons Killed >
0.18
0.48
< Inhibitors >
0.48
17,836
< Physical Damage >
18,488
837
< Magic Damage >
2,755
1,628
< True Damage >
526
20,302
< Damage Dealt >
21,770
29,418
< Damage Taken >
20,914
12,821
< Gold Earned >
12,425
1.77
< Towers >
2.34
0.38
< Baron Takedowns >
0.06
13,794
< Total Healing >
4,930
14,439
< Experience >
12,660
24
< Vision Score >
19
6
< Wards Placed >
9
491
< Time Dealing CC >
40

How to Counter Lucian with Graves in LoL

The stats provided here clarify several strategic Graves against Lucian counter stats that may help you realize the differences between these two champions. Graves’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is more than Lucian’s ratio of NaN, showing that Graves may be more central to his team's team fighting capability than Lucian..

Graves often has a similar longest killing spree as his matchup does. Commonly, he receives more damage than Lucian. This typically indicates differing health capacities, but it can also indicate that the one champion has less agility and thus is not able to flee from additional harm when engaged or poked.

Differences between Graves and Lucian

Damage Types Compared

Graves
Lucian
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Graves
Lucian

Who is Better, Graves or Lucian?

Both League of Legends champions are great champions. Both champs have their pros and cons. In League's current meta, Graves usually wins when facing off against Lucian, with a 52.0% win rate. Therefore, Graves makes a good counter for Lucian.

While Graves does have a higher win rate compared to Lucian, when facing one another, Graves also has a lower difficulty level that makes him a less challenging champ to pick up and master. You should be careful when picking Graves into Lucian.

Additionally, Graves has only a small amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Lucian. This often makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when trying to counter champions with a ton of burst damage.

While there isn't one best champion overall in League of Legends, in Graves vs Lucian matchups, Graves is the better champ with a higher win rate, less champion complexity, and a similar amount of utility to help out your allies during teamfights.

Graves is a decent counter to Lucian. You will do well by focussing your gameplay on maximizing your gold and cs and clearing objectives. If you can do that, you should do very well as Graves against Lucian.

Other Champion Matchups Against Graves

Graves Loses Against

ZyraZyra46.8% winrateBardBard47.1% winrateNaafiriNaafiri47.2% winrateTahm KenchTahm Kench47.3% winrate

Graves Wins Against

NidaleeNidalee55.6% winrateLeBlancLeBlanc55.2% winrateXayahXayah55% winrateKai'SaKai'Sa54.7% winrate

Top Synergies by Role

TeemoTeemo+ 54.2% 11371 GamesZyraZyra+ 54.3% 6861 GamesMaokaiMaokai+ 54.6% 6548 GamesLilliaLillia+ 55.7% 1241 Games

Additional Information for Graves Players

How We Calculated Our Graves vs Lucian Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Lucian as Graves, we analyzed 11,114 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Lucian as Graves comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

Other Useful Resources

Graves Build Lucian Build

Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To learn all of the intricacies of Graves to counter Lucian during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to learn a few extra lessons on this matchup. If you mind the build and tips shown above, you will increase your win rate by a lot and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Graves often accumulates a lot less CS relative to Lucian. Champions who on average don't take many minion kills often don't require much CS to be valuable teammates, such as support champions. They are able to scale properly off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champs with large amounts of CS, such as hyper-carries, usually require many items to be effective. In either situation, try to do better than the numbers reported on this page to do well.

The top items to have in your Graves versus Lucian build consist of Youmuu's Ghostblade, Voltaic Cyclosword, and Opportunity. When Graves included at least these three items in his build, he did much better when fighting Lucian than with most other commonly used builds. In fact, Graves boasted an average winrate of 52.0% battling Lucian with this build.

To have the greatest likelihood of annihilating Lucian as Graves, you should use the Fleet Footwork, Triumph, Legend: Alacrity, Coup de Grace, Sudden Impact, and Treasure Hunter runes from the Precision and Domination rune sets. Out of all the rune builds players used for Graves vs Lucian counterpicks, this order of runes resulted in the greatest win rate. Moreover, these runes gave a 52.0% win rate overall.

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