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How to Win Graves vs Karma Counter MatchupGraves is in the a tier of champions

Graves vs Karma

How to Beat Karma as Graves in LoLGraves is in the b tier of champions
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How to Beat Karma as Graves

based on 4,866 Graves vs Karma matchups
Win Rate
51.8 %
K/D/A
2.48
Pick Rate
2.9 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We at MOBA Champion analyze millions of recently ranked LoL games every week. Within our dataset, Graves fought Karma in 4866 rounds. Having so many games with Graves vs Karma provides us a lot of confidence in our ability to provide useful statistics and a pro build to smash your opposition. This champ pairing is relatively rare. Graves fights Karma in only 2.9% of his rounds.

Graves vs Karma Matchup Summary

Graves does a decent job of beating Karma. Normally, he wins a acceptable 51.8% of games the champions face off with each other in. In Graves vs Karma games, Graves’s team is 0.0% more likely to earn first blood. This indicates that he probably will get first blood versus Karma.

Best Graves vs Karma Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Gustwalker HatchlingHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Serrated DirkRectrix

Core Graves Items

~22 Mins
Guardian AngelYoumuu's GhostbladeThe Collector

Optional Items

BloodthirsterOpportunitySerpent's FangSundered Sky

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonersmite summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Graves to level upq
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Second ability for Graves to level upe
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Last skill for Graves to max outw

Runes

PrecisionFleet FootworkTriumphLegend: AlacrityCoup de Grace
InspirationMagical FootwearCosmic Insight
Attack SpeedAdaptive ForceHealth Scaling
Graves's passive ability p
Graves's q ability q
Graves's w ability w
Graves's e ability e
Graves's ultimate ability r
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E
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Q
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W
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Q
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Q
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R
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Guide to Countering Karma as Graves

Tips for Playing as Graves against Karma

Smoke Screen can be used both to escape and to set up a kill.

Using Quickdraw to get into range and delivering a point blank Buckshot can do lots of damage.

Advice to Win Against Karma

Focused Resolve is a strong disengage tool. Create distance to avoid being rooted and seek to engage afterwards.

Karma's Soulflare erupts for bonus damage in the area in which it's placed. React quickly and escape the circle to avoid taking heavy damage.

Karma's passive lowers her Mantra cooldown when she hits enemy champions with abilities and basic attacks. Deny her from getting free hits on you.

Graves vs Karma Counter Stats

Graves Image
Win Rate
51.8 %
VS
Win Rate
48.2 %
Karma Image
7.2
< Kills >
2.9
5.6
< Deaths >
5.3
6.7
< Assists >
11.7
1.62
< Killing Sprees >
0.62
53
< Minions Killed >
67
1.54
< Dragons Killed >
0.05
0.48
< Inhibitors >
0.49
17,530
< Physical Damage >
968
802
< Magic Damage >
13,962
1,559
< True Damage >
694
19,892
< Damage Dealt >
15,624
29,733
< Damage Taken >
18,644
12,711
< Gold Earned >
9,166
1.72
< Towers >
1.97
0.38
< Baron Takedowns >
0.01
14,121
< Total Healing >
2,837
14,369
< Experience >
11,394
23
< Vision Score >
51
6
< Wards Placed >
22
489
< Time Dealing CC >
233

How to Counter Karma with Graves in LoL

The stat comparisons shown here underscore some critical Graves vs. Karma counter statistics that may help us realize the distinctions between the pair. For instance, Graves’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is greater than Karma’s KDA ratio of NaN, demonstrating that Graves may be more central to his team's team fighting capability than Karma. This observation is in large part fueled by the difference in kills.

Graves usually has a much larger longest killing spree than his opponent does. Typically, he receives more damage than Karma. This often reflects differing health capacities, but it can also indicate that the champion with increased HP has less mobility and thus is not able to flee from additional damage when poked or engaged.

Differences between Graves and Karma

Damage Types Compared

Graves
Karma
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Graves
Karma

Who is Better, Graves or Karma?

Both League of Legends champs are great champions. Both champs have their pros and cons. In the game's current meta, Graves usually wins when playing against Karma, with a 51.8% win rate. Thus, Graves makes a good counter to Karma.

While Graves does have a higher winrate compared to Karma, when they face off with one another, Graves also has a lower level of difficulty that makes him a less complex character to pick up and master. You should be careful when picking Graves into Karma.

Furthermore, Graves also has almost no amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Karma. This often makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when facing champions with a ton of burst damage.

While there isn't a single best champion overall in League of Legends, in Graves vs Karma matchups, Graves is the better champion with a higher win rate, less champion complexity, and a similar amount of utility to help out your allied champions during teamfights.

Graves is a decent counter for Karma. Make sure you focus your strategy on keeping up your gold and cs and taking out objectives. If you are able to do that, you should be able to stand on your own as Graves against Karma.

Additional Information for Graves Players

How We Calculated Our Graves vs Karma Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Karma as Graves, we analyzed 4,866 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Karma as Graves comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To truly master Graves to counter Karma during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to learn a few extra lessons on this matchup. If you listen to the build and tips presented above, you will grow your win rate significantly and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Graves most often gets a similar amount of CS as Karma. Champions who typically don't take many minion kills often don't need much CS to be valuable teammates, such as support champions. They are able to scale properly off of their abilities and first items alone. Yet, champions with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, usually require many items to be effective. In either situation, try to surpass the numbers shown here to do well.

The top items to prioritize in your Graves versus Karma build include Guardian Angel, Youmuu's Ghostblade, and The Collector. When Graves bought at least these three pieces in his build, he did significantly better vs Karma than with many other typical counter builds. In fact, Graves boasted an average win rate of 51.8% when countering Karma with these items in his kit.

To have the greatest likelihood of defeating Karma as Graves, you should equip the Fleet Footwork, Triumph, Legend: Alacrity, Coup de Grace, Cosmic Insight, and Magical Footwear runes from the Precision and Inspiration rune sets. Of all the rune builds players used for Graves vs Karma battles, this combination of runes resulted in the greatest win rate. In fact, these runes averaged a 51.8% winrate overall.

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