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Graves vs Garen

How to Beat Garen as Graves in LoLGraves is in the b tier of champions
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How to Beat Garen as Graves

based on 5,397 Graves vs Garen matchups
Win Rate
52 %
K/D/A
2.46
Pick Rate
3.2 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We generate our counter statistics from the millions of recently ranked LoL matches that we get from Riot Games every week. Our guide on how to beat Garen as Graves resulted from an analysis of 5397 ranked rounds where both champs faced off against one another. This particular counter matchup is fairly rare. Graves has to counter Garen in only 3.2% of his matches.

Graves vs Garen Matchup Summary

Graves does a good job of countering Garen. Typically, he wins a whopping 52.0% of matches the champions battle one another in. In Graves vs Garen matches, Graves’s side is 0.0% more likely to gain first blood, indicating that he probably will get first blood versus Garen.

Best Graves vs Garen Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Scorchclaw PupHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Serrated DirkRectrix

Core Graves Items

~22 Mins
Guardian AngelBlack CleaverYoumuu's Ghostblade

Optional Items

Infinity EdgeBloodthirsterOpportunityLord Dominik's Regards

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonersmite summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Graves to level upq
>
Second ability for Graves to level upe
>
Last skill for Graves to max outw

Runes

PrecisionFleet FootworkTriumphLegend: AlacrityCoup de Grace
InspirationMagical FootwearCosmic Insight
Attack SpeedAdaptive ForceArmor
Graves's passive ability p
Graves's q ability q
Graves's w ability w
Graves's e ability e
Graves's ultimate ability r
1
E
2
Q
3
Q
4
W
5
Q
6
R
7
Q
8
E
9
Q
10
E
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R
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E
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E
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W
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R

Guide to Countering Garen as Graves

Tips for Playing as Graves against Garen

Smoke Screen can be used both to escape and to set up a kill.

Using Quickdraw to get into range and delivering a point blank Buckshot can do lots of damage.

Advice to Win Against Garen

Be careful about attacking Garen in brush. It often will lead to taking full damage from Judgment.

Stack armor items to lower the large amount of physical damage that Garen deals out.

Judgment deals maximum damage when only hitting a single target. If getting out of its radius isn't possible, move through allied minions to reduce damage taken.

Try to run away from Garen as your health gets lower, as he can execute you quickly with Demacian Justice.

Graves vs Garen Counter Stats

Graves Image
Win Rate
52 %
VS
Win Rate
48 %
Garen Image
7
< Kills >
6
5.6
< Deaths >
4.8
6.8
< Assists >
3.6
1.59
< Killing Sprees >
1.36
57
< Minions Killed >
182
1.54
< Dragons Killed >
0.11
0.5
< Inhibitors >
0.61
17,469
< Physical Damage >
13,601
826
< Magic Damage >
196
1,682
< True Damage >
4,576
19,977
< Damage Dealt >
18,374
29,545
< Damage Taken >
31,408
12,673
< Gold Earned >
12,200
1.78
< Towers >
2.79
0.37
< Baron Takedowns >
0.03
13,877
< Total Healing >
3,145
14,402
< Experience >
15,371
23
< Vision Score >
17
6
< Wards Placed >
8
493
< Time Dealing CC >
143

How to Counter Garen with Graves in LoL

The stat comparisons provided here clarify several critical Graves against Garen counter stats that can help us explain the differences and similarities between this set of champions. For instance, Graves’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is better than Garen’s KDA ratio of NaN, highlighting that Graves may be more central to his team's team fighting potential than Garen..

Graves typically has a similar longest killing spree as his enemy does. On average, he takes a similar amount of damage to Garen. This commonly reflects differing health capacities, but it can also indicate that the one champ has less mobility and thus is not able to flee from further harm when engaged or poked.

Differences between Graves and Garen

Damage Types Compared

Graves
Garen
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Graves
Garen

Who is Better, Graves or Garen?

Both League of Legends champions are great. Both champs have their strengths, weaknesses, and counters. In the game's current meta, Graves usually wins when playing against Garen, with a 52.0% win rate. Therefore, Graves makes a good counter for Garen.

While Graves does have a higher win rate than Garen, when on opposite teams, Graves also has a lower learning curve that makes him a less time consuming champ to pick up and master. You should be careful when picking Graves into Garen.

Additionally, Graves also has only a small amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Garen. This often makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when fighting champions with a ton of burst damage.

While there is not one best champion overall in League of Legends, in Graves vs Garen matchups, Graves is the better champion with a higher win rate, less champion complexity, and a similar amount of utility to help out your team members during teamfights.

Graves is a decent counter for Garen. Make sure you focus your tactics on keeping up your CS and taking out objectives. If you can do that, you should hold your own as Graves against Garen.

Additional Information for Graves Players

How We Calculated Our Graves vs Garen Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Garen as Graves, we analyzed 5,397 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Garen as Graves comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To truly master Graves to counter Garen during both the lane and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to gather a few extra tips and tricks for this matchup. If you mind the build and stats presented above, you should grow your win rate significantly and be closer to League of Legends pro players.

Graves most often accumulates a lot less CS relative to Garen. Champions who on average don't acquire much CS usualy don't need much CS to be valuable teammates, such as support champions. They are able to scale properly off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champs with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, usually require many items to be effective. In either situation, try to exceed the values shown here to do well.

The best items to focus on in your Graves versus Garen build include Guardian Angel, Black Cleaver, and Youmuu's Ghostblade. When Graves incorporated at least these three items in his build, he did much better vs. Garen than with many other commonly used item sets. In fact, Graves boasted an average win rate of 52.0% when playing against Garen with this build.

To have the highest likelihood of crushing Garen as Graves, Graves players should take the Fleet Footwork, Triumph, Legend: Alacrity, Coup de Grace, Cosmic Insight, and Magical Footwear runes from the Precision and Inspiration rune sets. Of all the rune sets that we analyzed for Graves vs Garen LoL games, this composite of runes yielded the greatest win rate. Notably, these runes provided a 52.0% winrate overall.

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