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How to Win Gragas vs Talon Counter MatchupGragas is in the a tier of champions

Gragas vs Talon

How to Beat Talon as Gragas in LoLGragas is in the a tier of champions
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How to Beat Talon as Gragas

based on 1,504 Gragas vs Talon matchups
Win Rate
50.3 %
K/D/A
2.2
Pick Rate
2.3 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

At MOBA Champion, we evaluate millions of recently ranked LoL rounds every week. Within our data, Gragas faced Talon 1504 times. With so many matchups for Gragas vs Talon provides us confidence in our capability to provide enlightening stats and a supported build to suppress your opponent. This particular counter pairing is fairly rare. Gragas encounters Talon in only 2.3% of his rounds.

Gragas vs Talon Matchup Summary

Gragas has done a average job of countering Talon. Typically, he wins a acceptable 50.3% of games the champions oppose each other in. In Gragas versus Talon rounds, Gragas’s team is 0.0% more expected to get first blood, indicating that he probably will be able to get first blood versus Talon.

Best Gragas vs Talon Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Doran's RingHealth Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
Amplifying TomeAether Wisp

Core Gragas Items

~22 Mins
Rabadon's DeathcapLich BaneStormsurge

Optional Items

Cosmic DriveRod of AgesSeraph's EmbraceZhonya's Hourglass

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerteleport summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Gragas to level upq
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Second ability for Gragas to level upe
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Last skill for Gragas to max outw

Runes

DominationElectrocuteSudden ImpactEyeball CollectionUltimate Hunter
SorceryTranscendenceGathering Storm
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceArmor
Gragas's passive ability p
Gragas's q ability q
Gragas's w ability w
Gragas's e ability e
Gragas's ultimate ability r
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Guide to Countering Talon as Gragas

Tips for Playing as Gragas against Talon

Try to knock enemies back into your towers with Explosive Cask.

Try to combo Body Slam with Explosive Cask to set up kills for your team.

The damage reduction from Drunken Rage is applied when you start drinking, try to use it when you see damage coming your way.

Advice to Win Against Talon

Talon is heavily reliant on Shadow Assault to escape a fight. When it is down he's significantly more vulnerable.

Talon has unrivaled roaming ability. Make sure to keep track of his position or force him to stay in lane by pushing aggressively.

Talon's attacks are all physical damage. Build armor early to counter his burst damage.

Gragas vs Talon Counter Stats

Gragas Image
Win Rate
50.3 %
VS
Win Rate
49.7 %
Talon Image
6
< Kills >
8.5
5.9
< Deaths >
6.9
7
< Assists >
6.1
1.39
< Killing Sprees >
1.96
115
< Minions Killed >
138
0.56
< Dragons Killed >
0.47
0.38
< Inhibitors >
0.35
1,528
< Physical Damage >
21,636
18,623
< Magic Damage >
80
606
< True Damage >
1,209
20,757
< Damage Dealt >
22,926
30,072
< Damage Taken >
28,195
11,439
< Gold Earned >
12,809
1.5
< Towers >
1.43
0.13
< Baron Takedowns >
0.1
12,302
< Total Healing >
6,588
14,306
< Experience >
14,801
21
< Vision Score >
19
8
< Wards Placed >
6
423
< Time Dealing CC >
192

How to Counter Talon with Gragas in LoL

The stat comparisons shown here highlight several influential Gragas versus Talon matchup stats that can help us realize the distinctions between the two. Gragas’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is greater than Talon’s ratio of NaN, demonstrating that Gragas may be more central to his team's team fighting effectiveness than Talon..

Gragas typically has a slightly smaller longest kill spree than his opponent does. On average, he takes a similar amount of damage to Talon. This commonly reflects different amounts of tankyness; however, it can also show that the champion with increased health has less mobility and thus is not able to flee from further harm when poked or engaged.

Differences between Gragas and Talon

Damage Types Compared

Gragas
Talon
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Gragas
Talon

Who is Better, Gragas or Talon?

Both League of Legends champions are great. Both have their pros and cons. In the game's current meta, Gragas usually fairs equally well when facing off against Talon, with a 50.3% win rate. Thus, Gragas makes an ok counter to Talon.

While Gragas does have a higher win rate than Talon, when they face off with one another, Gragas also has a lower difficulty level that makes him a less complex character to pick up and master. You should be careful when picking Gragas into Talon.

Additionally, Gragas has a good amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Talon. This often makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when fighting champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there is not a single best champion for every situation in League of Legends, in Gragas vs Talon matchups, Gragas is the better champion with a similar win rate, less champion complexity, and a similar amount of utility to help out your team members during late stage team fights.

Gragas is a decent counter to Talon. You will do well by focussing your actions on increasing your CS and destroying objectives. If you are able to do that, you should do very well as Gragas against Talon.

Additional Information for Gragas Players

How We Calculated Our Gragas vs Talon Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Talon as Gragas, we analyzed 1,504 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Talon as Gragas comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

If you would like to truly master Gragas to counter Talon during both the early game and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to learn a few extra tips and tricks for this matchup. If you mind the build and suggestions shown above, you will grow your win rate significantly and be closer to League of Legends pro players.

Gragas often gets a similar amount of CS as Talon. Champions who on average don't take much CS often don't need much CS to be valuable teammates, such as supports. They are able to scale well off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champions with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, typically require several high cost items to be effective. In either case, try to do better than the values reported here to do well.

The ideal items to have in your Gragas versus Talon build consist of Rabadon's Deathcap, Lich Bane, and Stormsurge. When Gragas included at least these three pieces in his build, he did significantly better against Talon than with many other commonly used counter builds. In fact, Gragas had an average winrate of 50.3% when countering Talon with this build.

To have the best probability of annihilating Talon as Gragas, Gragas players should take the Electrocute, Sudden Impact, Eyeball Collection, Ultimate Hunter, Gathering Storm, and Transcendence runes from the Domination and Sorcery rune sets. Of all the runes players used for Gragas vs Talon fights, this sequence of runes yielded the best win rate. Moreover, these runes gave a 50.3% win rate overall.

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