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Fiddlesticks vs Graves

How to Beat Graves as Fiddlesticks in LoLFiddlesticks is in the a tier of champions
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How to Beat Graves as Fiddlesticks

based on 2,814 Fiddlesticks vs Graves matchups
Win Rate
50.1 %
K/D/A
2.35
Pick Rate
4.4 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

At MOBA Champion, we summarize millions of recently ranked LoL games each and every week. In our dataset, Fiddlesticks faced Graves 2814 times. Including so many matchups for Fiddlesticks versus Graves provides us confidence in our ability to prepare informative statistics and a supported build to defeat Graves. This counter pairing is fairly uncommon. Fiddlesticks has to counter Graves in only 4.4% of his rounds.

Fiddlesticks vs Graves Matchup Summary

Fiddlesticks has done a average job of countering Graves. Typically, he wins a acceptable 50.1% of games the champions face off with each other in. In Fiddlesticks versus Graves games, Fiddlesticks’s side is 0.1% less expected to obtain first blood. This indicates that he most likely won't be able to get first blood against Graves.

Best Fiddlesticks vs Graves Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Health PotionWorld Atlas

Early Items

~5 Mins
Dark SealSorcerer's Shoes

Core Fiddlesticks Items

~22 Mins
Rabadon's DeathcapHextech RocketbeltZhonya's Hourglass

Optional Items

Liandry's TormentMalignanceShadowflameVoid Staff

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonersmite summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Fiddlesticks to level upw
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Second ability for Fiddlesticks to level upq
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Last skill for Fiddlesticks to max oute

Runes

InspirationFirst StrikeTriple TonicFuture's MarketCosmic Insight
DominationCheap ShotUltimate Hunter
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceArmor
Fiddlesticks's passive ability p
Fiddlesticks's q ability q
Fiddlesticks's w ability w
Fiddlesticks's e ability e
Fiddlesticks's ultimate ability r
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Guide to Countering Graves as Fiddlesticks

Advice to Win Against Graves

Leaving the Smoke Screen's area of effect removes the harmful effect immediately.

Graves deals mostly physical damage so Armor is an effective counter.

Fiddlesticks vs Graves Counter Stats

Fiddlesticks Image
Win Rate
50.1 %
VS
Win Rate
49.9 %
Graves Image
5.7
< Kills >
7.3
6.2
< Deaths >
5.8
8.9
< Assists >
7.1
1.34
< Killing Sprees >
1.7
39
< Minions Killed >
54
1.23
< Dragons Killed >
1.57
0.33
< Inhibitors >
0.47
285
< Physical Damage >
17,689
17,804
< Magic Damage >
889
1,142
< True Damage >
1,613
19,232
< Damage Dealt >
20,191
33,573
< Damage Taken >
30,624
11,343
< Gold Earned >
12,951
1.15
< Towers >
1.68
0.29
< Baron Takedowns >
0.37
17,733
< Total Healing >
14,362
13,048
< Experience >
14,699
48
< Vision Score >
24
4
< Wards Placed >
6
753
< Time Dealing CC >
505

How to Counter Graves with Fiddlesticks in LoL

The stat comparisons provided here underscore several valuable Fiddlesticks against Graves matchup stats that may help us distinguish the differences and similarities between the two. Fiddlesticks’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is greater than Graves’s KDA ratio of NaN, demonstrating that Fiddlesticks may be more central to his team's team fighting potential than Graves..

Fiddlesticks typically has a slightly smaller longest kill spree than his matchup does. Commonly, he receives a similar amount of damage to Graves. This typically indicates different amounts of tankyness, yet it can also illustrate that the champion with more HP has less agility and thus is not able to kite away from further harm when engaged or poked.

Differences between Fiddlesticks and Graves

Damage Types Compared

Fiddlesticks
Graves
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Fiddlesticks
Graves

Who is Better, Fiddlesticks or Graves?

Both League of Legends champions are great champions. Both champs have their strengths, weaknesses, and counters. In League's current meta, Fiddlesticks usually fairs equally well when trying to fight Graves, with a 50.1% win rate. Therefore, Fiddlesticks makes an ok counter for Graves.

While Fiddlesticks does have a higher winrate than Graves, when on opposite teams, Fiddlesticks also has a much greater difficulty level that makes him a more complex champ to develop with. You should be careful when picking Fiddlesticks into Gravesas his relative depth means you may not be able to unleash his full potential without a lot of practice beforehand.

Moreover, Fiddlesticks also has a good amount of CC and other utility, a similar amount to Graves. This often makes her just as valuable during teamfights, especially when fighting champions with a lot of burst damage.

While there isn't a single best champion overall in League of Legends, in Fiddlesticks vs Graves matchups, Fiddlesticks is the better champ with a similar win rate, more champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your team members during late stage team fights.

Fiddlesticks is a decent counter to Graves. Focus your tactics on maximizing your gold income and destroying objectives. If you do that, you should be able to stand on your own as Fiddlesticks against Graves.

Additional Information for Fiddlesticks Players

How We Calculated Our Fiddlesticks vs Graves Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Graves as Fiddlesticks, we analyzed 2,814 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Graves as Fiddlesticks comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

To learn all of the intricacies of Fiddlesticks in order to counter Graves during both the laning and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should continue reading to pick up a few extra tips and tricks for this matchup. If you listen to the build and tips displayed here, you will grow your win rate by a lot and be closer to League of Legends pro players.

Fiddlesticks most often picks up a similar amount of CS relative to Graves. Champs who typically don't acquire much CS typically don't require much CS to be effective, such as support champions. They are capable of scaling well off of their skills, stats, and first items alone. Yet, champs with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, usually have to have many items to be effective. In either situation, try to exceed the numbers shown here to do well.

The most important items to use in your Fiddlesticks versus Graves build include Rabadon's Deathcap, Hextech Rocketbelt, and Zhonya's Hourglass. When Fiddlesticks combined at least these three items in his build, he performed a lot better versus Graves than with many other common counter builds. In fact, Fiddlesticks boasted an average win rate of 50.1% when countering Graves with this build.

To have the highest probability of vanquishing Graves as Fiddlesticks, you should use the First Strike, Triple Tonic, Future's Market, Cosmic Insight, Cheap Shot, and Ultimate Hunter runes from the Inspiration and Domination rune sets. Of all the rune sets players picked for Fiddlesticks vs Graves clashes, this combo of runes resulted in the greatest win rate. Notably, these runes provided a 50.1% win rate overall.

If you need to get Fiddlesticks vs Graves tips and counter builds for a a specific skill level, feel free to select one from the selection menu provided above. If viewing for the first time, the statistics and guides given are computed using all games completed with these champs.